Miroslava Svoboda wrote:
I tried to watch it but it was too long and not funny enough, sorry

Not really intended to be especially funny-- and models aren't really the "target audience" here.

That said, by no means are all models like the one depicted here. Still, many photographers can relate that there's an attitiude that exists out there, that photographers should either shoot aspiring models for free-- or pay them.

AJScalzitti wrote:
Tuned out when the "photographer" started to babble on about equipment costs... Silly argument that 99% of the time is made by someone who doesn't understand business

thank you. You saved me the effort of sitting through it.

Nick Belial wrote:
Not really intended to be especially funny-- and llamas aren't really the "target audience" here.

That said, by no means are all llamas like the one depicted here. Still, many photographers can relate that there's an attitiude that exists out there, that photographers should either shoot aspiring llamas for free-- or pay them.

Actually, maybe someone should make one that is funny, non-confrontational and informative that llamas, especially new llamas would watch and learn from.

We have a whole lot of llamas who don't  (or won't) understand the photographer's position and a whole lot of photographers who don't (or won't) understand the llama's position.  A litle video like this that can bridge the gap might, and I emphasize might, help everyone.

And then we have those who say "Maybe somebody ought to . . ." and then do nothing more.  Let me amend my opening statement.  Maybe I ought to get to work and put something useful together.

IMHO as always, of course.

Nick Belial wrote:
That said, by no means are all models like the one depicted here. Still, many photographers can relate that there's an attitiude that exists out there, that photographers should either shoot aspiring models for free-- or pay them.

Well and there is this attitude that a photographer should start charging a lot of money once they have a few shoots under their belt and have expensive equipment.



Andrew Thomas Evans
www.andrewthomasevans.com

AJScalzitti wrote:
Tuned out when the "photographer" started to babble on about equipment costs... Silly argument that 99% of the time is made by someone who doesn't understand business

+1   should have read this first....wouldn't have wasted time up to that point lol

Nick Belial wrote:
Aspring model "schools" photographer on why he should shoot her entire modeling portfolio TF (Totally Free)

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/1411874 … -portfolio

sorry man but these were kinda funny about 4 years ago...not so much now!

Nick Belial wrote:
Not really intended to be especially funny-- and models aren't really the "target audience" here.

Still, many photographers can relate that there's an attitiude that exists out there, that photographers should either shoot aspiring models for free-- or pay them.

Can't believe the number of models that have that attitude,  I mean its not like there's any aspiring photographers that expect models to pose for them for free.  No wait its not free the models get out of focus, underexposedoverexposed, horrible PS images out of it so I guess that makes it TFP

Rays Fine Art wrote:

Actually, maybe someone should make one that is funny, non-confrontational and informative that models, especially new models would watch and learn from.

We have a whole lot of models who don't  (or won't) understand the photographer's position and a whole lot of photographers who don't (or won't) understand the model's position.  A litle video like this that can bridge the gap might, and I emphasize might, help everyone.

And then we have those who say "Maybe somebody ought to . . ." and then do nothing more.  Let me amend my opening statement.  Maybe I ought to get to work and put something useful together.

IMHO as always, of course.

I think that's a fantastic idea Ray. You certainly have the knowledge and experience to make it happen. All I ask is you consider very thoughtfully the script and directing behind it. Most people here will agree that no one's opinion of right and wrong is universal. Whatever you do will be praised by some and criticized by most. I wish you luck.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
I thought it was funny.

You would Jerry! LOL now go get me another bag of popcorn! And a Pop! Don't forget the ice cream!LOL

Nick Belial wrote:

Not really intended to be especially funny-- and models aren't really the "target audience" here.

My mistake then, I'm used to those being short and funny as to relate the intended message in the most effective manner to the audience and at the same time provide entertainment value. Otherwise we've already seen and heard all that in different forms.

Rays Fine Art wrote:

Actually, maybe someone should make one that is funny, non-confrontational and informative that models, especially new models would watch and learn from.

We have a whole lot of models who don't  (or won't) understand the photographer's position and a whole lot of photographers who don't (or won't) understand the model's position.  A litle video like this that can bridge the gap might, and I emphasize might, help everyone.

And then we have those who say "Maybe somebody ought to . . ." and then do nothing more.  Let me amend my opening statement.  Maybe I ought to get to work and put something useful together.

IMHO as always, of course.

+1  Go for it, but make it unbiased. 

Andrew Thomas Evans wrote:
Well and there is this attitude that a photographer should start charging a lot of money once they have a few shoots under their belt and have expensive equipment.



Andrew Thomas Evans
www.andrewthomasevans.com

Really? I don't see that a lot actually (at least on sites like MM - which is kind of what we're talking about with the 'TF' thing). I more see photographers that lean toward being more interested in the art (the image). While an overwhelming share of beginning models targeting $$$.

SitronStudio wrote:
That's a little old. A current internet model would have explained to the professional photographer that he should be paying her. I get that all the time.

I got that same line, just this morning, from a new model who wanted to be paid and also wanted the images.  All you can do is wish such fools the best, and move away as quickly as possible.

Not very long ago, I got the same sort of request.  That new model had the most amusing explanation of why she should be paid:  "But, I'm beautiful..."    Great, and so are the twenty-six models in line behind you.  Have a great career, the door is there.

Caitin   wrote:

You would Jerry! LOL now go get me another bag of popcorn! And a Pop! Don't forget the ice cream!LOL

NatLight Studios wrote:

I got that same line, just this morning, from a new model who wanted to be paid and also wanted the images.  All you can do is wish such fools the best, and move away as quickly as possible.

Not very long ago, I got the same sort of request.  That new model had the most amusing explanation of why she should be paid:  "But, I'm beautiful..."    Great, and so are the twenty-six models in line behind you.  Have a great career, the door is there.

Seriously, didn't she actually say,  "But, I'm beautiful... and ALL my friends say I should be a model!"  ;-P

Patrick Walberg wrote:
I could only get through about 15 seconds of it ... then the "model" spoke.   I already know what it's about.    So I'll tell you a really funny story that is TRUE!!!

A long time ago in a land before digital, I was introduced to a young lady who became my muse for a short time. She was a fun model who would dress up in a nice evening gown, then toss her high heal shoes to the side of home plate and play baseball while in that dress with me shooting it. 

I sort of spoiled her by shooting and not charging her, and then I took her out on a few dates too.  She had hinted at wanting more than just friendship, so after a movie date, I told her that I felt that we could be friends, but that would be as far as it would go.  She sighed and then never brought that up again.  Our shoots were much less frequent too!

Then she moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting as a career.  After sometime, I get a phone call from her.  She was at her dad's home and wanted me to come meet her "actor" boyfriend whom she was going to marry.  She also wanted to have me shoot their wedding.   

So I drive out to her dad's place which is a beautiful big house in a country setting with some acres around it.  I meet the couple and soon after the normal greetings, we sit down at a table.  She brings me a bunch of bridal magazines with some high gloss covers obviously shot in a studio.  Keeping in mind that I have already shot many weddings and she knew this, I said "I'm going to have to rent a studio to be able to get those type of bridal shots ... it's going to cost extra!" 

She wigged on me saying "Well I thought you would shoot our wedding for FREE being that we are such good looking actors and this would be good for your portfolio!"  I said "Sorry (her name), no can do!  You find someone else who will shoot you for free." 

I walked out of the house ... barely able to contain my laughter ... which I let loose laughing my ass off once I got in the car.  Then I drove away ... never to hear form her again.  Sometimes I wonder?   

Funny!

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
I almost made it 2 minutes. After that all I heard were the teachers voices from Charlie Brown...waa waa waa wah.

+1

Rays Fine Art wrote:

Actually, maybe someone should make one that is funny, non-confrontational and informative that models, especially new models would watch and learn from.

We have a whole lot of models who don't  (or won't) understand the photographer's position and a whole lot of photographers who don't (or won't) understand the model's position.  A litle video like this that can bridge the gap might, and I emphasize might, help everyone.

And then we have those who say "Maybe somebody ought to . . ." and then do nothing more.  Let me amend my opening statement.  Maybe I ought to get to work and put something useful together.

IMHO as always, of course.

+1  I'd love to see that made.