Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Emm, I have nothing against nudity. Heck, I love being naked, love sex..blah blah.
But it seems like every shout out is from a photographer touting the nudes he shot.
And I have received a few messages so far..most want me topless or more.
I get it. I have boobs. People sometimes want to see them.
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

I'll be kind, even though you were insulting.

So I'm older and I photograph young women nude. Guess I'm creepy.

You profile says you do nudes, but evidently, the person shooting them has to pass your creep-meter in order to work with you.

Sorry if I come off as angry, but your stereotyping bothered me.

Best of luck.

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Emm, I have nothing against nudity. Heck, I love being naked, love sex..blah blah.
But it seems like every shout out is from a photographer touting the nudes he shot.
And I have received a few messages so far..most want me topless or more.
I get it. I have boobs. People sometimes want to see them.
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

Are you referring to the home page shoutout's? it ranges from day to day and from hour to hour on what you will see. sometimes it will be a lot of nude models, photographers that shoot nudes etc. most models on here are below as they say fashion standard high and in general it's kind of hard to mess up a nude shoot compared to composing any other type of image. Also everyone wets there feet a little in nude work but, not everyone does a good job at shooting nudes or posing nude.

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Emm, I have nothing against nudity. Heck, I love being naked, love sex..blah blah.
But it seems like every shout out is from a photographer touting the nudes he shot.
And I have received a few messages so far..most want me topless or more.
I get it. I have boobs. People sometimes want to see them.
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

Loved the insulting stereotyping and the bad statistical method. A few porny messages and we're all older creepies? Get over yourself.

If you persist with this attitude, you'll make sure that the only photographer who will request your participation are the older creepies. The true creepies. Who else would put up with that attitude?

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
If all they are shooting is nude/erotic work, I would have thought a different site would be more appropriate (possibly?)..or at least..I would have expected less of an avalanche of "hey, look at the hot naked chicks" in the shoutouts and portfolios I have scanned.

Simple as that.
Guess I am mistaken.

Sheesh, picky crowd.

*retreats to hole*

If I may be unscientific for a moment, I believe there are many on here, myself included, who shoot more than erotic nudes. And I'm pretty sure there aren't any alternatives to MM.

I, for one, enjoyed your sarcasm but you've got to be able to take it as well as give it around here. I hope you'll reconsider your retreat. Thick skin is my advice.

**Edit**
Not suggesting you do (as I work in advertising), but if you were to remove your blue shoe photo PMs will probably drop precipitously. But if you make it your avatar, the dam will burst.

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Emm, I have nothing against nudity. Heck, I love being naked, love sex..blah blah.
But it seems like every shout out is from a photographer touting the nudes he shot.
And I have received a few messages so far..most want me topless or more.
I get it. I have boobs. People sometimes want to see them.
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

AM I AN "OLD (78) CREEPIE."  Why make such a broad generalization? Give us oldies a break!!!  www.nudespoetic.com

Mark Salo wrote:
creep-meter:  mine is a Sekonic GWC-09

You are so behind the times!

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Ok, let me try to rephrase before this gets out of hand.

1. I didnt mean to offend older people at all. What I was intending on saying was that, I am new, and the bulk of what I have seen are shoutouts to come see other peoples portfolios by photographers. Great. Except most of these shout outs aren't "hey, I am based in Florida, check out my new imagery"..or similar. They were along the lines of "I have two new nudes!!!" and I thought that to be a wee bit odd considering this is a website devoted to photography and models, makeup and such, not just naked models.

2. I am not OFFENDED by nakedness. Heck, I look at plenty of porn. However, this doesnt mean I wish to be featured in it. It clearly states I will do implied nudity and yet do not wish to do erotic shots, spreads etc. Considering I also dont have any topless photos or butts or whatever in my limited portfolio thus far, I kind of figured (incorrectly) that people would get the idea that I am open to the idea of it, but dont want to do just a nude pictorial for just any random photographer.

I see LOTS of amazing photographers (and models, makeup artists, bodypainters..and so on) on here. I am in awe of good photography. There are likely thousands of amazing naked photographs on here of some amazing people. I didnt mean to stereotype everyone. I asked a question, since I am new and was only approved YESTERDAY that in my LIMITED time online here, the bulk of what I have been exposed to are the aforementioned photographers asking people to come check out their new naked pictures. Maybe my impression is different than yours. Maybe a females is different than a males. Maybe a model's is different than a photographers. Maybe its just because I am new. So I asked a seemingly harmless question and I am getting slammed. Then the mod stepped in to try to smooth it over and I am still getting crucified.

So..thanks. I am shutting up now.
Apologies to all those I have offended.

Hitler. The KKK. Al-Qaeda. Donald Sterling. Caena McKenzie.
AWESOME.

Hi Caena,

From what I've read in the posts above, you are a little far from being slammed.

What you have gotten thus far are viewpoints from photographers on the question and opinions you presented.

No need for sarcasm in your closing above. The forums are for civil discussion and debate, which is what I've seen in the posts above.

There are many different types of people on this site, with lots of different motivations for being here.

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Emm, I have nothing against nudity. Heck, I love being naked, love sex..blah blah.
But it seems like every shout out is from a photographer touting the nudes he shot.
And I have received a few messages so far..most want me topless or more.
I get it. I have boobs. People sometimes want to see them.
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

I understand your newness and genuine curiosity, but please understand that there is a reason that you chose to use the words "older" and "creepy".

You could have just said, "Why do so many on here want to shoot nudes?"

I have another profile that focuses on nudes. I'm not really on MM to get any clients. I have a website for that.

So it makes sense that someone would use MM to source models for their less mainstream work, or for personal projects, fantasy, nude, experimentation, to network, although there are many great fashion and commercial models on MM as well

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?

I like you

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Wow, wasnt trying to be rude. Apologies if it came across that way., I am very sarcastic and brash. Apparently it fell on deaf ears here.

Anyway to clarify, I have simply seen most of the shout-outs from the photographers say "hey, check out my portfolio, I have new nude imagery!"..which to me, comes off as somewhat creepy.

And the few messages I have got have been asked to do erotic photos, which is not what I wrote in my profile and certainly not anything similar to any image in my portfolio.

So, I apologise if it seems that I stereotyped the lot of you, but that wasnt my intention.
I dont care what age or sex the photographer is, only the quality and style of their work, and their professional demeanor.

If all they are shooting is nude/erotic work, I would have thought a different site would be more appropriate (possibly?)..or at least..I would have expected less of an avalanche of "hey, look at the hot naked chicks" in the shoutouts and portfolios I have scanned.

Simple as that.
Guess I am mistaken.

Sheesh, picky crowd.

*retreats to hole*

There are many models who model nude and photographers who photograph nude models on MM.

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
I asked a question, since I am new and was only approved YESTERDAY that in my LIMITED time online here, the bulk of what I have been exposed to are the aforementioned photographers asking people to come check out their new naked pictures. Maybe my impression is different than yours. Maybe a females is different than a males. Maybe a model's is different than a photographers. Maybe its just because I am new. So I asked a seemingly harmless question and I am getting slammed. Then the mod stepped in to try to smooth it over and I am still getting crucified.

So..thanks. I am shutting up now.
Apologies to all those I have offended.

Hitler. The KKK. Al-Qaeda. Donald Sterling. Caena McKenzie.
AWESOME.

Perhaps you should have given it more than a day and chosen your words a little more wisely? You did come off as abrasive (I know I would have taken offense if I was a photog). I've only been here a month, and like you I've seen the numerous announcements about "New Nudes".  I secretly wondered what the site was really about.  However, as I do with everything in my life, I chose to give it some time and check things out.  I've checked the forums, read old posts, etc. determining the "character" of MM. Although, I'm sure there are some GWC's out there, I really don't believe the majority are creeps, pervs, etc. If you are uncomfortable with any offers you get, simply decline (or don't respond).  That's the beauty of this site. If all else fails, you can always CAM. Right?

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
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But is MM mostly a bunch of older creepy men looking to just shoot cute naked girlies or something?
I am new..so..be kind with your responses please!

Yes.

Bambi Le Bam wrote:

Perhaps you should have given it more than a day and chosen your words a little more wisely? You did come off as abrasive (I know I would have taken offense if I was a photog). I've only been here a month, and like you I've seen the numerous announcements about "New Nudes".  I secretly wondered what the site was really about.  However, as I do with everything in my life, I chose to give it some time and check things out.  I've checked the forums, read old posts, etc. determining the "character" of MM. Although, I'm sure there are some GWC's out there, I really don't believe the majority are creeps, pervs, etc. If you are uncomfortable with any offers you get, simply decline (or don't respond).  That's the beauty of this site. If all else fails, you can always CAM. Right?

Very well put and a great model to follow. Dig through and get a feel for the place before making any assumptions. Assumptions on the internet will consume your soul... almost literally.

Jennifer Haggerty wrote:
Unfortunately sarcasm does not translate well over forum and feathers are easily ruffled with the autonomy of the internet providing some security. Your question does provide an interesting topic for discussion. As a youngish female, I set up a model profile as well and specified that I would NOT do nude work and yet my inbox was filled with request for nude and fetish work. It is rather inappropriate, but unavoidable - again, the Internet has a different set of rules entirely.

MM does not consist individuals with the sole purpose of seeing naked flesh. Instead of associating age and style type, allow the work to speak for itself. You might find a profile with work that speaks to you and that should not be ignored because the photographer is a specific sex and age.

In this instance, as with most, the work DOES speak for itself. Simply thank the person with the interest and decline the shoot, block or report to mod if they become belligerent or uncomfortably pushy.

To the other members who took an insulted stance on this topic. This behavior is very common on MM which does explain a posting or several with the concern. Instead of bashing the ignorance of the op - recognize that it does happen and it is our responsibility to correct misinformation.

Keep the passion and keep it safe and clean.

Well said.  It is the Mayhem after all. 
As a Gatekeeper and Forum Guide we try very hard to keep creepers away.  If buy chance any messages are too creepy and out of line CAM it: https://www.modelmayhem.com/contactamod
Otherwise please take the offer to shoot nudes as a simple reply to your offer to shoot nudes non TF.

Jennifer Haggerty wrote:

Very well put and a great model to follow. Dig through and get a feel for the place before making any assumptions. Assumptions on the internet will consume your soul... almost literally.

Thank you! Made me blush!

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
you noticed the shoes?

B-b-b-barely

Mark Salo wrote:
creep-meter:  mine is a Sekonic GWC-09

GPS Studio Services wrote:
You are so behind the times!

It has served me well.

I will be upgrading to digital soon.

GPS Studio Services wrote:


The OP has asked a legitimate question, but I also understand why some are getting their feathers ruffled.   I don't think anyone needs to though.  I don't think she intended to do that.

It is quite obvious, for a new female model, they are quickly inundated with offers for nudes.  I think this is a good thread to explain to the OP why you do nudes, and for those who don't to chime in as well.

She may have asked a "legit" question but I don't see why any photographer here should have to "explain why they shoot nudes" to someone who doesn't understand why people want to shoot them.

sorry, some people just don't get it, and the OP seems to be one of them; that's not a criticism or a putdown or any type of slight intended to the OP its just an observation from reading her post

besides does anyone really want to listen to all the cliches about "the beauty of the human form"

welcome to MM

Orca Bay Images wrote:

Loved the insulting stereotyping and the bad statistical method. A few porny messages and we're all older creepies? Get over yourself.

If you persist with this attitude, you'll make sure that the only photographer who will request your participation are the older creepies. The true creepies. Who else would put up with that attitude?

Applause

Caena MacKenzie wrote:
Ok, let me try to rephrase before this gets out of hand..............
I asked a question, [b]since I am new and was only approved YESTERDAY that in my LIMITED time online here, the bulk of what I have been exposed to are the aforementioned photographers asking people to come check out their new naked pictures.............. Then the mod stepped in to try to smooth it over and I am still getting crucified.

So..thanks. I am shutting up now.
Apologies to all those I have offended.

Hitler. The KKK. Al-Qaeda. Donald Sterling. Caena McKenzie.
AWESOME.

Well, a wise person once said, "It's better to keep your mouth shut at the risk of seeming to be ignorant rather than open it and remove all doubt".   The rising tide of arrogance among new, inexperienced, and uninformed models never ceases to amaze. 

Enjoy your next visit to Oregon.  If the phone doesn't ring, it's me.  Just another old photographer that you managed to piss off.

Revenge Photography wrote:
Once again a handful of asshats run off a new model.

FFS is the newbie forum, no need to set the dogs on the OP

Correct me if I'm wrong (it is possible), but:
The OP's very first post in the forum (after just being approved) was abrasive
She then got advice as to what to do to help defer the offers that offended her so much- what does she do? - the exact opposite!
Her "apology"... well really wasn't an apology when you consider the names
and finally she changed her name as a final f u.
I really don't think anyone ran her off... I think it's more of a case of "you can dish it out, but you can't take it"