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Zelohney Moss wrote: Buy a bicycle Sep 09 14 01:02 pm Link salvatori. wrote: One should not base their assumptions on gender, though I KNOW it happens. Women are just as likely to be crazy and steel from you then ditch as men or they could have an accomplice waiting at the spot. Sep 09 14 01:15 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: Guessing you don't really want a career in modeling. Sep 09 14 01:26 pm Link I've given rides to models before, mostly when we're out of town. My wife is always with me, but even so, I insist that the model takes a cell phone photo of our car, showing the plates, and sends it to a friend/spouse/relative before getting into the car. Sep 09 14 01:34 pm Link I have provided rides for dozens of models. Usually on the way back home if they take public transit and always if it is late. No problem. Sep 09 14 05:28 pm Link salvatori. wrote: You surely take a lot of posts from strangers off the internet, to heart regularly, in a rather strange way. Sep 09 14 05:38 pm Link Jennifer Haggerty wrote: That's a terrible conclusion to draw. The quality of a portfolio has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality or reliability of the person behind it. Sep 09 14 06:38 pm Link Jennifer Haggerty wrote: Adjusted to remove nonsense Sep 09 14 06:55 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: I give rides to models quite often.My studio is on a bus route,but buses here run very slowly,and if model is carrying a lot of stuff,I like to make things as easy for her as possible.Never had any incidents or problems. Sep 09 14 06:56 pm Link Lumigraphics wrote: It certainly goes a long way in telling you their commitment to their craft. If they're serious about their work, they're serious about the people they work with. It's not as clean cut as that but it's definitely a sign. Sep 10 14 05:16 am Link Cherrystone wrote: Agreed. But as this is a public forum, and I will most likely never meet the OP, I suppose I have no choice. I've always been the type to speak my mind, and it's usually civil, unless I'm stereotyped. Sep 10 14 05:20 am Link DougBPhoto wrote: Her boyfriend picked her up and they went camping on an island. Sep 10 14 06:15 am Link Jim Shibley wrote: Last year I took Brenda back to my hotel room for our shoot because it was cool and windy in the desert at 5PM. When she came in the room she turned up the heat to 89°. Sep 10 14 06:23 am Link Zelohney Moss wrote: I suggest you post this message in the tiny female model forum since according to your logic they are the only opinions worth considering. Sep 10 14 03:57 pm Link GER Photography wrote: Basically. Sep 10 14 06:40 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: Really? For fuck's sake. Sep 10 14 06:44 pm Link OT: Every time I see the title of this thread the pic of Eric Clapton and BB King in that big convertible on the cover of Riding with the King flashes across the screen of my mind!:-)) Sep 10 14 06:52 pm Link GER Photography wrote: Damn I am glad I wasn't the only one... Sep 10 14 07:02 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: This. Sep 15 14 01:01 am Link Zelohney Moss wrote: Same due diligence to vet your photographers can check if safe to travel with. (references, tags, credits etc). Plus using photographers car means you can photograph their rego plates and text it to a friend. (tell the photographer this is one of your routine safety precautions 'nothing personal') Sep 17 14 02:27 am Link I get rides from photographers all the time. I don't drive and if a location is off the subway route it's pretty much necessary. Do your reference checks diligently, make sure someone knows who you are with and that they are a reputable person to be out with and you'll be fine. Sep 17 14 11:22 am Link I prefer to carpool with models on outdoor shoots, whether it's our first or fifth shoot together, because we can discuss concepts on the way. And if I see something I like and want to stop quick, I'm not trying to think for two cars. However, I freely acknowledge the uncertainty this would have with some models. And just like with shooting, if they don't feel comfortable with something, they shouldn't do it. It sounds like you've got big concerns. I don't know if any level of assurance will give you comfort, because no one can offer 100% assurance. If you want to shoot, but you don't have a way to get around, and you don't want to get in a car with a photographer, sounds like you have some choices to make about which one of those gives. Best of luck to you. Sep 18 14 04:15 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: Modeling 101 - check refs! If you google the photographers REAL name and there are pages and pages about him/her...chances are they're not an ax murderer. Sep 18 14 06:34 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: +1 Sep 20 14 12:21 am Link Legeros Photography LLC wrote: I wondered how long before this became an escort thread. Sep 20 14 10:06 am Link Nico Simon Princely wrote: +1 Sep 20 14 10:14 am Link I give models rides to and from their homes if it makes them less anxious about making connections. Often a model is bringing lots of stuff and it is not always very easy to carry all that on a bus. Also, I often take models on location shoots that can be up to a 2 hour drive away. How else are you going to do it? But I have never worked with someone on location without first doing a studio session so we get to know one another. The only exception would be a traveling model that I can see is very experienced and used to linking up with people she does not know. But again, we have exchanged phone calls, e-mails, and vetted one another's portfolios. Sep 20 14 10:23 am Link I've frequently driven a model but I do notice some apprehension sometimes when it's a first shoot with them. My MM profile says they have the option of having a friend accompany us whether I drive or not. Never had a problem with an escort.. Sep 22 14 02:47 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: My car was in the shop for a bit after an accident, and I did allow some photographers to give me rides occasionally. However, I check references thoroughly and have excellent "creep" radar. If you don't check references I would say either don't take rides, or at least expect the likelihood that you will be a victim of a crime to be comparable to the likelihood while socializing in any other manner in your particular region. No more, no less. It's only as dangerous as anything else for a female alone. I would be more cautious in San Diego and Las Vegas than Portland, OREGON. Check the local crime stats if you don't know the region... Also, let someone know where you will be, what time to expect you back, etc. Sep 22 14 03:03 pm Link is that even a thing? even with the possible sex trafficking cases aren't the women usually lured (often by another woman?) it's not throw over shoulder and take back to man cave. maybe take some self defense classes and carry mace, etc.? if you aren't comfortable working with men you don't know then this might not be the thing for you. or you just need to work within a small circle of people you already know. or maybe do a meet&greet with the photographer at starbuck's before agreeing to work with them. one model and her husband came over to our house and checked us out before agreeing to shoot. i've read posts from photographers who've been robbed on shoots but that hasn't stopped me from doing them or from allowing escorts. Zelohney Moss wrote: Sep 22 14 03:24 pm Link Do your homework and vetting of the photographer. Know who you'll be with. And do what makes you comfortable. I have literally traveled days with models (for a several day shoot, and as we travel from location to location) - I book them a separate hotel room - and give them their privacy and space (as we all need). We travel in my van which has a power inverter so laptops can be run, batteries recharged. All the luxuries of home. It can be very productive. I tend to be gregarious. We have good chats. One collaborator took a nap in the van (mid-afternoon, after lunch) as I scouted the location and imaged some landscapes for myself. (Never any rest for the photographer LOL) When the shoot is "done" - sometimes we'll go joyriding just to see the sights. Models tell me they feel safe with me. If a model doesn't feel safe, it'll show in the images. And I can't afford that hit to my reputation or finances. Jerry Sep 22 14 06:56 pm Link Zelohney Moss wrote: I prefer to drive myself to shoots but in the past I've been picked up by photographers and driven by them to the shoot location before I had my car. Obviously you should check references before working with anyone (separate from the driving situation), but I feel like if they have a bunch of good references, i'm also less nervous to get in their car. Sep 23 14 02:25 am Link If I feel safe enough to shoot with them I feel safe enough to drive with them. I generally drive myself but once in awhile get picked up and I've never had a problem. Sep 24 14 06:26 pm Link |