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Solstice Rain
Posts: 13687
Davenport, Florida, US
I didn't read this whole thread, but it's a wonderful way to approach things. My mother has always had the feeling that she may not approve of some of my choices for HER, but she supports that I made the choice. And any one who loves me, should be able to support me as long as I'm not doing something to hurt myself.
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-Freckles-
Posts: 1014
Columbus, Ohio, US
*claps loudly enough to annoy the neighboors* lol well said!
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Mellisa Kay
Posts: 181
Newark, Ohio, US
Stands and applauds. thankfully I haven't had this problem
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Toby Key
Posts: 322
Chichester, England, United Kingdom
One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her.
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September Sui
Posts: 840
Riverside, California, US
Someone in this thread said in response to DV, "Is that the right thing to do?" Challenging someone else's judgement by judging them right back isn't necessarily "right", but it's an option, and it might be worth a damn to try. Plus, there's no real "right" way to respond to people... human interactions aren't multiple-choice questions with only one right answer.
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Dara_w
Posts: 12100
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. acutally I just call them hypocrites. I told my dad, that if he wanted to stop supporting glamour models, he shouldn't look at any nudie mags and sites. I told him if he REALLY wanted to help the community, he should not look at women's bodies at all. it's disgraceful I do have a story of my friends husband tho. He was on a porn site and some fans had stolen some of my pics and started a dedication thread about me. He was there looking at the pics and commenting, but as far as I know, he talks shit behind my back like I do porn, and I'm wrong for being educated and modeling, and I'm really a stripper, etc. So I found a way to get his number and let him know that I knew he was on the porn site, and made him feel like I had one in the pocket just in case he decided to get out of hand again. I knew he was scared as shit like :how did she know it was me?". Probably scared to type anything at all online now. SHAME ON HIM.
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Gone Til Novus-ember
Posts: 11440
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Dara_w wrote:
acutally I just call them hypocrites. I told my dad, that if he wanted to stop supporting glamour models, he shouldn't look at any nudie mags and sites. I told him if he REALLY wanted to help the community, he should not look at women's bodies at all. it's disgraceful I do have a story of my friends husband tho. He was on a porn site and some fans had stolen some of my pics and started a dedication thread about me. He was there looking at the pics and commenting, but as far as I know, he talks shit behind my back like I do porn, and I'm wrong for being educated and modeling, and I'm really a stripper, etc. So I found a way to get his number and let him know that I knew he was on the porn site, and made him feel like I had one in the pocket just in case he decided to get out of hand again. I knew he was scared as shit like :how did she know it was me?". Probably scared to type anything at all online now. SHAME ON HIM. the funny part was when he went back and edited all his posts.
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Dara_w
Posts: 12100
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Gone Til Novus-ember wrote:
the funny part was when he went back and edited all his posts. like he was never there at all.
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AlkemieJaneWearsClothes
Posts: 1185
Cleveland, Ohio, US
a-fucking-men! if they can't be supportive, they aren't worth it! thank you!
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Gone Til Novus-ember
Posts: 11440
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Dara_w wrote:
like he was never there at all. LOL The Ghost of Porn.
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Tobias Key wrote: One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her. I must be really ugly then because my better half treats me like a princess and full supports my modeling.
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Laura Hopalong
Posts: 9064
Mobile, Alabama, US
I'm glad this got bumped.
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Greg Kolack
Posts: 18392
Elmhurst, Illinois, US
One of my all time favorite threads. Great to see it again.
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Maddie Moon
Posts: 271
Los Angeles, California, US
* Is a huge fan of Daniela V* This post is beautiful. A breath of fresh air. I might cry. THANKYOU.
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J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE
Posts: 2691
Los Angeles, California, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes???
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September Sui
Posts: 840
Riverside, California, US
J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote: I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes??? This is a pretty old thread, so I'm guessing no.
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Jessica Reighn
Posts: 1680
Mount Ephraim, New Jersey, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant.
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d30john
Posts: 1269
San Diego, California, US
Phoenyx wrote: my Mom always told me, "You can have trust without love, but never love without trust." I like the quote. Thnx mom
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Greg Kolack
Posts: 18392
Elmhurst, Illinois, US
J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:
I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes??? I seriously doubt that.
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote: I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes??? One has nothing to do with the other. I have a ton of reasons for "not shooting nudes"- taking the modeling in a different direction being one of them... then again, I was nude in front of a lens a week or two ago. So no, nothing to do with that. I don't let other people dictate my decisions.
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Desiree Chivon
Posts: 1998
Long Beach, California, US
Good point. I'll try this.
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'Monk
Posts: 1779
Denver, Colorado, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. *claps loudly* Very well said
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Diana Jo
Posts: 787
Marysville, Washington, US
Daniela Victoria wrote:
*Claps* Thank you, thank you for saying that!
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L57
Posts: 10908
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Tobias Key wrote: One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her. Fuck I must be a real asshole I support Sarah in what she does in every way.
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Model Sarah
Posts: 40987
Columbus, Ohio, US
How did I miss this? Usually this sort of behavior stems from insecurity or religious reasons as well as control that runs with it. I'm sort of lucky to have people surrounding me that love the work I am a part of and feel the emotion and passion for what i do. Not only that but my friends tell me I have opened their minds to nude work. That means so much to me. My mom said; "Sarah you are a smart girl and you know what's best for you. I'm proud of you." My dad said; "I want one of the books you are in." My ex boyfriend 100% supported me and even helped during shoots. I think you all know how my current boyfriend feels about it.
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i888
Posts: 417
Los Angeles, California, US
They're probably secretly jealous as well... people who disaprove of nude shots probably don't have the body and/or guts to pose nude.
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Camilai
Posts: 1845
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Why do people disapprove of nude shoots and find them so obscene even though many of them can be artistic? I don't think there is anything obscene with our naked bodies, it was, after all, the way we were born. Who all of a sudden decided that it's offensive to show it off? I wouldn't walk around naked in respect for other peoples' beliefs, but they needn't express their extreme distaste for nudes to me.
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Meko
Posts: 15
Euless, Texas, US
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EmilyC
Posts: 248
I approve of this post. I recently broke it off with a guy who loved to oogle the models of a certain site in front of me (specifically pointing out certain girls and saying things like, "oh, she's a lot hotter than you") and he thought it was great, but when it came to my modeling, he didn't approve. It really hurt me. It's not that he didn't care for my style, his disapproval stemmed from jealousy and insecurity on his part. To him, it was okay to look at models, but not date one. Anyway, it was apparent to me that I didn't meet his "standards" anyway -- who needs that? Your partner should be your biggest fan, in my opinion. If there's not mutual support, you're just wasting time!
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Camilai wrote: Why do people disapprove of nude shoots and find them so obscene even though many of them can be artistic? Many reasons. None of them are good.
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Rick Edwards
Posts: 6185
Wilmington, Delaware, US
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Bryan Scott Photography
Posts: 256
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. In the past, I've said that I would have loved an opportunity to work with you. Now, I would just love to shake your hand - Well said!!!!!
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Great Lakes Glamour wrote: In the past, I've said that I would have loved an opportunity to work with you. Now, I would just love to shake your hand - Well said!!!!! Thanks-
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Sayonara Real Soon
Posts: 80
UPPER DARBY, Pennsylvania, US
*Clapping* w/the rest:-) My lovely mother supports me (as long as I don let my uncles, bros, male family member see/catch wind of my nude shots, which is understandable, ewww don't need that lol) & w/her support, my heart & my strentgh I can do anything :-)) Once again beautiful thread!! ~O'
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Ava Jean
Posts: 1466
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Urban Goddess
Posts: 359
Fort Walton Beach, Florida, US
loves_it88 wrote: * Is a huge fan of Daniela V* This post is beautiful. A breath of fresh air. I might cry. THANKYOU. I second this...this thread is exactly what I needed to see right now. My boyfriend doesn't support me posing nude... at all. He keeps asking why nude, what am I getting out of it and am I not getting enough attention from him. I told him time after time its has shit to do with attention and that its something I love and am proud that I had the guts to start doing it because I've wanted to for a while because I think its absolutely beautiful being able to express myself in this way. But he resists to see this as art...this whole thing is so fuckin stressful
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Urban Goddess wrote: But he resists to see this as art...this whole thing is so fuckin stressful Maybe he never will see it as art. But you should make it clear how disappointed you are in him to not support you.
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