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Solstice Rain

Posts: 13687

Davenport, Florida, US

I didn't read this whole thread, but it's a wonderful way to approach things. My mother has always had the feeling that she may not approve of some of my choices for HER, but she supports that I made the choice. And any one who loves me, should be able to support me as long as I'm not doing something to hurt myself.

Mar 07 08 01:24 pm Link

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-Freckles-

Posts: 1014

Columbus, Ohio, US

*claps loudly enough to annoy the neighboors*
lol

well said!

Mar 07 08 01:31 pm Link

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Mellisa Kay

Posts: 181

Newark, Ohio, US

Stands and applauds.

thankfully I haven't had this problem smile

Mar 07 08 01:33 pm Link

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ciaogoodbyeadios

Posts: 1907

Los Angeles, California, US

Great post!

Mar 07 08 04:36 pm Link

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Toby Key

Posts: 322

Chichester, England, United Kingdom

One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her.

Mar 07 08 04:49 pm Link

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September Sui

Posts: 840

Riverside, California, US

Someone in this thread said in response to DV, "Is that the right thing to do?"

Challenging someone else's judgement by judging them right back isn't necessarily "right", but it's an option, and it might be worth a damn to try.

Plus, there's no real "right" way to respond to people... human interactions aren't multiple-choice questions with only one right answer.

Mar 07 08 06:58 pm Link

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Dara_w

Posts: 12100

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

acutally I just call them hypocrites. I told my dad, that if he wanted to stop supporting glamour models, he shouldn't look at any nudie mags and sites. I told him if he REALLY wanted to help the community, he should  not look at women's bodies at all. it's disgraceful smile



I do have a story of my friends husband tho. He was on a porn site and some fans had stolen some of my pics and started a dedication thread about me. He was there looking at the pics and commenting, but as far as I know, he talks shit behind my back like I do porn, and I'm wrong for being educated and modeling, and I'm really a stripper, etc.
So I found a way to get his number and let him know that I knew he was on the porn site, and made him feel like I had one in the pocket just in case he decided to get out of hand again.

I knew he was scared as shit like :how did she know it was me?". Probably scared to type anything at all online now.


SHAME ON HIM.

Mar 07 08 07:13 pm Link

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Gone Til Novus-ember

Posts: 11440

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Dara_w wrote:

acutally I just call them hypocrites. I told my dad, that if he wanted to stop supporting glamour models, he shouldn't look at any nudie mags and sites. I told him if he REALLY wanted to help the community, he should  not look at women's bodies at all. it's disgraceful smile



I do have a story of my friends husband tho. He was on a porn site and some fans had stolen some of my pics and started a dedication thread about me. He was there looking at the pics and commenting, but as far as I know, he talks shit behind my back like I do porn, and I'm wrong for being educated and modeling, and I'm really a stripper, etc.
So I found a way to get his number and let him know that I knew he was on the porn site, and made him feel like I had one in the pocket just in case he decided to get out of hand again.

I knew he was scared as shit like :how did she know it was me?". Probably scared to type anything at all online now.


SHAME ON HIM.

the funny part was when he went back and edited all his posts.

Mar 07 08 07:15 pm Link

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Dara_w

Posts: 12100

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Gone Til  Novus-ember wrote:

the funny part was when he went back and edited all his posts.

like he was never there at all.

Mar 07 08 07:16 pm Link

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AlkemieJaneWearsClothes

Posts: 1185

Cleveland, Ohio, US

a-fucking-men! if they can't be supportive, they aren't worth it! thank you!

Mar 07 08 07:24 pm Link

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Gone Til Novus-ember

Posts: 11440

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Dara_w wrote:

like he was never there at all.

LOL The Ghost of Porn.

Mar 07 08 07:41 pm Link

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Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Tobias Key wrote:
One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her.

I must be really ugly then because my better half treats me like a princess and full supports my modeling.

Mar 07 08 07:45 pm Link

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Laura Hopalong

Posts: 9064

Mobile, Alabama, US

I'm glad this got bumped. smile

Mar 07 08 07:54 pm Link

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Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

One of my all time favorite threads.

Great to see it again.

Mar 07 08 08:31 pm Link

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Maddie Moon

Posts: 271

Los Angeles, California, US

* Is a huge fan of Daniela V*

This post is beautiful. A breath of fresh air. I might cry. THANKYOU.

Mar 08 08 12:13 am Link

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J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE

Posts: 2691

Los Angeles, California, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes???

Mar 08 08 06:03 am Link

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September Sui

Posts: 840

Riverside, California, US

J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:
I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes???

This is a pretty old thread, so I'm guessing no.

Mar 08 08 08:56 am Link

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Jessica Reighn

Posts: 1680

Mount Ephraim, New Jersey, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

Mar 08 08 10:23 am Link

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d30john

Posts: 1269

San Diego, California, US

Phoenyx wrote:
my Mom always told me, "You can have trust without love, but never love without trust."

I like the quote.  Thnx mom

Mar 08 08 11:28 am Link

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Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:

I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes???

I seriously doubt that.

Mar 08 08 11:37 am Link

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Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:
I wonder if this has anything to do with your recent announcement that you are no longer modeling nudes???

One has nothing to do with the other.

I have a ton of reasons for "not shooting nudes"- taking the modeling in a different direction being one of them...

then again, I was nude in front of a lens a week or two ago.

So no, nothing to do with that. I don't let other people dictate my decisions.

Mar 08 08 01:03 pm Link

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Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4630

Burbank, California, US

BRA-f-ing-VO!

Well said.

Mar 08 08 01:06 pm Link

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Desiree Chivon

Posts: 1998

Long Beach, California, US

Good point.

I'll try this.

Mar 08 08 01:07 pm Link

Photographer

'Monk

Posts: 1779

Denver, Colorado, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

*claps loudly* Very well said smile

Mar 08 08 01:08 pm Link

Photographer

Diana Jo

Posts: 787

Marysville, Washington, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:

*Claps*  Thank you, thank you for saying that!

Mar 08 08 01:13 pm Link

Photographer

Ex Voto Studio

Posts: 4985

Columbia, Maryland, US

it has worked for me!!!

Mar 08 08 01:14 pm Link

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L57

Posts: 10908

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Tobias Key wrote:
One day someone will come up with the mathematic equation that proves that the prettier the girl the bigger the dick head who dates her.

Fuck I must be a real asshole sad

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080308/10/47d2aabba0ccf_m.jpg

I support Sarah in what she does in every way.

Mar 08 08 04:31 pm Link

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Model Sarah

Posts: 40987

Columbus, Ohio, US

How did I miss this? Usually this sort of behavior stems from insecurity or religious reasons as well as control that runs with it.

I'm sort of lucky to have people surrounding me that love the work I am a part of and feel the emotion and passion for what i do. Not only that but my friends tell me I have opened their minds to nude work. That means so much to me.

My mom said; "Sarah you are a smart girl and you know what's best for you. I'm proud of you." My dad said; "I want one of the books you are in."

My ex boyfriend 100% supported me and even helped during shoots.

I think you all know how my current boyfriend feels about it. smile

Mar 08 08 04:33 pm Link

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i888

Posts: 417

Los Angeles, California, US

They're probably secretly jealous as well... people who disaprove of nude shots probably don't have the body and/or guts to pose nude.

Mar 08 08 04:59 pm Link

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Camilai

Posts: 1845

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Why do people disapprove of nude shoots and find them so obscene even though many of them can be artistic?

I don't think there is anything obscene with our naked bodies, it was, after all, the way we were born. Who all of a sudden decided that it's offensive to show it off? I wouldn't walk around naked in respect for other peoples' beliefs, but they needn't express their extreme distaste for nudes to me.

Mar 08 08 05:39 pm Link

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Meko

Posts: 15

Euless, Texas, US

Awesome thread.

Mar 08 08 05:42 pm Link

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EmilyC

Posts: 248

I approve of this post. smile

I recently broke it off with a guy who loved to oogle the models of a certain site in front of me (specifically pointing out certain girls and saying things like, "oh, she's a lot hotter than you") and he thought it was great, but when it came to my modeling, he didn't approve.  It really hurt me.  It's not that he didn't care for my style, his disapproval stemmed from jealousy and insecurity on his part.  To him, it was okay to look at models, but not date one.  Anyway, it was apparent to me that I didn't meet his "standards" anyway -- who needs that?

Your partner should be your biggest fan, in my opinion.  If there's not mutual support, you're just wasting time!

Mar 09 08 09:11 am Link

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Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Camilai wrote:
Why do people disapprove of nude shoots and find them so obscene even though many of them can be artistic?

Many reasons.

None of them are good.

Mar 10 08 11:23 am Link

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Rick Edwards

Posts: 6185

Wilmington, Delaware, US

hear, hear

Mar 10 08 11:26 am Link

Photographer

Bryan Scott Photography

Posts: 256

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Daniela Victoria  wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

In the past, I've said that I would have loved an opportunity to work with you.  Now, I would just love to shake your hand - Well said!!!!!

Mar 10 08 11:45 am Link

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Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Great Lakes Glamour wrote:
In the past, I've said that I would have loved an opportunity to work with you.  Now, I would just love to shake your hand - Well said!!!!!

smile

Thanks-

Mar 10 08 11:50 am Link

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Sayonara Real Soon

Posts: 80

UPPER DARBY, Pennsylvania, US

*Clapping* w/the rest:-) My lovely mother supports me (as long as I don let my uncles, bros, male family member see/catch wind of my nude shots, which is understandable, ewww don't need that lol) & w/her support, my heart & my strentgh I can do anything :-))
Once again beautiful thread!!
~O'

Mar 10 08 11:53 am Link

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Ava Jean

Posts: 1466

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Very well said, Bravo.

Mar 10 08 11:54 am Link

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Urban Goddess

Posts: 359

Fort Walton Beach, Florida, US

loves_it88 wrote:
* Is a huge fan of Daniela V*

This post is beautiful. A breath of fresh air. I might cry. THANKYOU.

I second this...this thread is exactly what I needed to see right now. My boyfriend doesn't support me posing nude... at all. He keeps asking why nude, what am I getting out of it and am I not getting enough attention from him. I told him time after time its has shit to do with attention and that its something I love and am proud that I had the guts to start doing it because I've wanted to for a while because I think its absolutely beautiful being able to express myself in this way. But he resists to see this as art...this whole thing is so fuckin stressful hmm

Mar 10 08 12:15 pm Link

Model

Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Urban Goddess wrote:
But he resists to see this as art...this whole thing is so fuckin stressful hmm

Maybe he never will see it as art.

But you should make it clear how disappointed you are in him to not support you.

Mar 10 08 12:17 pm Link