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Photographer

Shuttered Dreams

Posts: 19

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I've seen a few 16-17 year old models on here, and their profiles say "WILL NOT DO NUDES/IMPLIED"

Now, I don't know about the laws for underagers doing implieds, seeing as I've never really felt the need to get an underager to do implieds.

but If you're not 18 or older, isn't it obvious that you can't shoot nudes.

Thus meaning there is no need to post it in capital letters on your profile, that you won't shoot nudes.

Jan 19 10 01:50 am Link

Makeup Artist

Monkey

Posts: 12755

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Yes.

Jan 19 10 01:53 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Shuttered Dreams wrote:
but If you're not 18 or older, isn't it obvious that you can't shoot nudes.

really?..

Jan 19 10 01:53 am Link

Photographer

Dannielle Levan

Posts: 12865

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Shuttered Dreams wrote:
I've seen a few 16-17 year old models on here, and their profiles say "WILL NOT DO NUDES/IMPLIED"

Now, I don't know about the laws for underagers doing implieds, seeing as I've never really felt the need to get an underager to do implieds.

but If you're not 18 or older, isn't it obvious that you can't shoot nudes.

Thus meaning there is no need to post it in capital letters on your profile, that you won't shoot nudes.

Not everyone is in America.

Jan 19 10 01:59 am Link

Photographer

Shuttered Dreams

Posts: 19

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Not everyone is in America.

Ok, I'll give you that
But across North America, it is illegal to photograph a model who is under the age of 18, nude.

I know there are a good portion of countries that have no laws against child pornography, however, the models I've seen with that on their profiles, are from north america.

Jan 19 10 02:10 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Shuttered Dreams wrote:

Ok, I'll give you that
But across North America, it is illegal to photograph a model who is under the age of 18, nude.

I know there are a good portion of countries that have no laws against child pornography

They call it Art, And it doesn't have to be pornographic Lol

Jan 19 10 02:15 am Link

Photographer

Rick Dupuis Photography

Posts: 6825

Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada

Shuttered Dreams wrote:

Ok, I'll give you that
But across North America, it is illegal to photograph a model who is under the age of 18, nude.

I give you two words

Brooke Shields

Jan 19 10 02:54 am Link

Photographer

Shuttered Dreams

Posts: 19

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

They call it Art, And it doesn't have to be pornographic Lol

Regardless of whether it is artistic or not, underage nudes are called 'child pornography'

Jan 19 10 03:06 am Link

Photographer

Paul Tirado Photography

Posts: 4363

New York, New York, US

Shuttered Dreams wrote:
Ok, I'll give you that
But across North America, it is illegal to photograph a model who is under the age of 18, nude.

I know there are a good portion of countries that have no laws against child pornography, however, the models I've seen with that on their profiles, are from north america.

Oh boy. This topic again. If you do a forum search you will find a few threads on this. While I will say it is not worth the potential hassle and trouble - it is only illegal in subjective circumstances that involve whether the person with authority finds the shots sexually suggestive or not.  See Jock Sturges, Sally Mann, every parent who has taken a shot of their child taking a bath, etc. 

Being that there is no law banning this - if you can actually find one, many photographers would love to see it - it is actually is informative that even the underage models put their limits.

Jan 19 10 03:06 am Link

Photographer

Shuttered Dreams

Posts: 19

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I give you two words

Brooke Shields

Yes but when she did child nudes, that was... how many years ago?
I'm fairly sure the laws have changed quite a bit since then.

Jan 19 10 03:07 am Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Thank you for this startling revelation, we appreciate it.

Jan 19 10 03:13 am Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

Rick Dupuis Photography wrote:

I give you two words

Brooke Shields

Miley Cyrus
implied
bare back
Leibovitz
never arrested

Jan 19 10 03:14 am Link

Photographer

Paul Tirado Photography

Posts: 4363

New York, New York, US

Here we go, link-o-rama from one of the 1324 previous threads


MM Threads about Minors modeling Nude, Implied, in Swimwear or Lingerie, or Similar
Photography Talk > Need advice for underage shoot (Miley Cyrus/Vanity Fair-style)
General Industry > Minors shooting lignerie? General Industry > Underage models. (“sexy” photos requested by model)
General Industry > Suggested nudes (…of an underage model)
General Industry > Underage Model (Suicide girl-style, 5+ pages)
General Industry > Implied nude with minors? (5+ pages)
General Industry > Photographing Nude Minors...... (5+ pages)
General Industry > Under-age models & "implied"
General Industry > Dilema..!! (Art nudes w/16 y/o model in UK)
General Industry > What state in the US is underage... (…nude images acceptable?) (5+ pages)
General Industry > Shooting a 16 y/o nude, but covered sparsely? (6 pages, locked)
Model Matters > Underage models. How sexy is too sexy?
Model Matters > Underage model nudity? (3+ pages)
Model Matters > Underage models & glamour/pin-up/lingerie?
Model Matters > Minors working implide
Model Matters > Underage Lingerie Shooting
Model Matters > how young is to young?? (“…sexy pics done hand bras…”) (3+ pages)
Model Matters > Underage sister posing nude for pro photogs! (8+ pages)
Photography Talk > Underage lingerie modeling (3+ pages)
Photography Talk > Another Question about Minors!!! (Semi-nude)
Photography Talk > Legal age to shoot nudes (3+ pages)
Photography Talk > When I work with minors... (lingerie requested by parent)
Photography Talk > isn't teen glamour illegal? (Trueteenbabes.com) (4+ pages)
Photography Talk > Implied and underage model (7+ pages)
Photography Talk > Am I being set up? (2+ pages)

General Industry > Underage Fashion Models posing Nude for Euro Vogue (5+ pages)
Photography Talk > T Magazine & Paolo Roversi & Underage nudes

State Laws regarding Child Pornography or Nudity (USA)
State Child Pornography Statutes (PDF document)

Federal Laws regarding Child Pornography (USA)
All are part of Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 110 (Index)

Note that nudity is not automatically included, and that clothed images can be included.

2251. Sexual exploitation of children
§ 2252. Certain activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors
§ 2252A. Certain activities relating to material constituting or containing child pornography
§ 2256. Definitions for chapter
§ 2257. Record keeping requirements

Jan 19 10 03:18 am Link

Model

Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Shuttered Dreams wrote:
I've seen a few 16-17 year old models on here, and their profiles say "WILL NOT DO NUDES/IMPLIED"

Now, I don't know about the laws for underagers doing implieds, seeing as I've never really felt the need to get an underager to do implieds.

but If you're not 18 or older, isn't it obvious that you can't shoot nudes.

No


Thus meaning there is no need to post it in capital letters on your profile, that you won't shoot nudes.

See my first response.

Jan 19 10 03:30 am Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

https://www.procolharum.com/003/white-knight.jpg

Jan 19 10 05:20 am Link

Model

Katja M

Posts: 1581

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

I've been asked to do both nude and implied, and I'm 16.

It is NOT obvious to everyone.

Jan 19 10 10:50 am Link