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The Studio Place

Posts: 91

Palm Springs, California, US

AJScalzitti wrote:
Women are amazing, Larry Flynt is not.  His magazine suffers from him trying to use it to spill his diatribe of moronic ramblings and not focus on those amazing women.  As for people's preference it may have nothing to do with "white knight" syndrome and more to do with many prefer leaving something to the imagination.

Myself, I liked Penthouse when Ken was shooting it; even if it didn't leave anything for my imagination.  Playboy is a great magazine even if it left out the pictorials.

Again my point proven, lack of mental capacity to comprehend what I said in general. You focus on Flynts behavoir rather than the erotica itself.

Oct 06 10 02:36 pm Link

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Markus Goerg

Posts: 1689

Los Angeles, California, US

NRGP wrote:
I did a bit of research on Kensey and hustler was mentioned. That is the only way I knew. haha Kensey also worked with a nazi during his research and his book on Sexual Behavior in the Human Male is statistically the fourth most harmful book to humanity it is under Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, and Quotations from Chairman Mao(just a little side note. Sorry haha.

Welcome to the internet, where people can propagate their ludicrous ideas, no matter how far fetched or plain stupid they are. "Statistically the FOURTH most harmful book to humanity??" REALLY? There were only THREE books written, including MEIN KAMPF, that were more harmful than his research on human sexuality? REALLY? I mean... REALLY? I bet you were one of those people who CHOKED when Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the Superbowl halftime show for a SECOND. You really have to be kidding me.

Oct 06 10 02:37 pm Link

Model

j121

Posts: 297

Port Nelson, Rum Cay, Bahamas

AOP Studios wrote:

Only if it's between parent and child, NOT siblings. THAT'S the law.

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–noun
1. sexual intercourse between closely related persons.
2. the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden.

Oct 06 10 02:38 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

The Studio Place wrote:

You are still not going to get laid by a model today.

I am sure I will, just like I have been for the past nearly 20 years smile  You just need to marry them.

Oct 06 10 02:38 pm Link

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The Studio Place

Posts: 91

Palm Springs, California, US

Savannah- wrote:
in·cest   /ˈɪnsɛst/  Show Spelled
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–noun
1. sexual intercourse between closely related persons.
2. the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden.

By you going out of your way to define INCEST I guess it is ok for you to have sex with your bother then????

Oct 06 10 02:38 pm Link

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Markus Goerg

Posts: 1689

Los Angeles, California, US

NRGP wrote:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha … kinsey.htm

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that EVERYTHING on the internet is true, irrefutable fact. borat

Oct 06 10 02:39 pm Link

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The Studio Place

Posts: 91

Palm Springs, California, US

AJScalzitti wrote:
I am sure I will, just like I have been for the past nearly 20 years smile  You just need to marry them.

That is why you picked up camera smile ???? You read of GCW without me even asking.

Oct 06 10 02:40 pm Link

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Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4630

Burbank, California, US

I'd have to say Playboy because I think they just have a classier presentation and I don't need to see as much detail as the gynos and proctologists of the girl's in Hustler or Penthouse need to, to do their job.

But I have to say, as good as it is, I've been bored to tears for years over the same predictable lighting and look of their pictorials. With all the amazing photographers out there, they'd do themselves a huge favor in mixing it up to breath some new life and surprises in their photography. Yes, I know they occasionally bring in guest photographers for some pictorials, but you gotta admit the art direction and their photography has been a one trick pony for a long time.

Oct 06 10 02:40 pm Link

Model

j121

Posts: 297

Port Nelson, Rum Cay, Bahamas

Family intercourse... Incest...
Not ok for you to touch your family lol

Oct 06 10 02:40 pm Link

Photographer

The Studio Place

Posts: 91

Palm Springs, California, US

Savannah- wrote:
Family intercourse... Incest...
Not ok for you to touch your family lol

What do you think biological twins sisters are?
Playboy the well respected soft core porn magazine has been distributing DVD's and magazines with real Twin Sisters fondling and licking each other for many years.

Wow just wow!

Oct 06 10 02:42 pm Link

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ByeBye100000

Posts: 3548

Los Angeles, California, US

I love how threads downgrade to something else after 2 pages. Started with a model asking what 3 porn mags are more preferable and now is at incest and next will be on wallpaper for your bathroom...

Oct 06 10 02:43 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

The Studio Place wrote:

That is why you picked up camera smile ???? You read of GCW without me even asking.

I read of GCW? no idea what you are talking about but I am very happy to have a successful marriage of many years with a wife who assists in the boudoir business we operate.

Back to the point, Playboy then Penthouse as far as the OPs question

Oct 06 10 02:44 pm Link

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The Studio Place

Posts: 91

Palm Springs, California, US

AOP Studios wrote:
I love how threads downgrade to something else after 2 pages. Started with a model asking what 3 porn mags are more preferable and now is at incest and next will be on wallpaper for your bathroom...

Actually you are so right... My apologies.


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I read of GCW? no idea what you are talking about but I am very happy to have a successful marriage of many years with a wife who assists in the boudoir business we operate.

Back to the point, Playboy then Penthouse as far as the OPs question

Thats awesome indeed! Keep up the great work! smile

Oct 06 10 02:44 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Alisyn Carliene wrote:
playboy.. guess cause' it's just a classic.

They have good articles!

Oct 06 10 02:52 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:

Just where did you get these wild ideas ? ?

Hustler had nothing to do with anything underage, ever.

Hustler wasn't even started until the 1970's and had no input to the Kinsey studies that were completed in the early 60's

KM

+1

Oct 06 10 02:55 pm Link

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NRGP

Posts: 144

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, US

I never said everything on the internet was true. That was just a quick resource. My research is done mostly through other means than the net. 2 no i didnt drop my jaw at the super bowl mishap. Just because I am concerned with the places that a mag is leading our country doesnt mean i am a prude...

Oct 06 10 02:59 pm Link

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Studio NYC

Posts: 117

New York, New York, US

Hustler, of course. Hustler is politically engaging and critically deconstructing.

Of course I read about how people here on MM are scared of Kinsey's researches. I was not surprised by those remarks. "Lies my teacher told me" is still a bestseller, and for good reasons.

Oct 06 10 03:04 pm Link

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Squirrels On Film

Posts: 534

Los Angeles, California, US

The one that has the  most hot naked women between the ages of 18 and 19.

Oct 06 10 03:07 pm Link

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Jeffrey M Fletcher

Posts: 4861

Asheville, North Carolina, US

NRGP wrote:
Not a big fan of any of them. But really not a fan of Hustler considering they had a huge roll to play in child molestation becoming so wide spread. They also worked closely with Kensey in the 60's and he helped with that too.

Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948), Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953). Your not getting the name or even decade of publication correct, so what are we to assume about how familiar you are with this work or how informed your conclusion is.

Oct 06 10 03:08 pm Link

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Photon Flux Photography

Posts: 23

Fort Wayne, Indiana, US

Interesting question...but the magazines are not the photographers...I think Arney Freytag, Suze Randall and Ken Marcus alll do great work. Suze did a lot of work for Hustler...more explicit than Playboy...but wellshot and well executed. I think HHef can be very critical and tough to work for. Kudos to all 3 for producing foor a very demanding boss.

In sum, you need to judge the magazine photography by the credited photographer, and all those magazines have had some great photograppher work for them.

Oct 06 10 03:09 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

NRGP wrote:
I never said everything on the internet was true. That was just a quick resource. My research is done mostly through other means than the net. 2 no i didnt drop my jaw at the super bowl mishap. Just because I am concerned with the places that a mag is leading our country doesnt mean i am a prude...

I have to disagree on this point, I don't feel these magazines are really leading our country in any direction.  Frankly I don't think they hold much sway over many people these days.

Perhaps my commentary is more about the demise of print publications and their influence then the actual content of any of these magazines.

Oct 06 10 03:12 pm Link

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Jeffrey M Fletcher

Posts: 4861

Asheville, North Carolina, US

and hustler, for the irreverent, low brow philosophy although the over use of saturation in the phtos is kind of hard to take

Oct 06 10 03:13 pm Link

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Lily of the Valley

Posts: 1002

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Patrick Shipstad wrote:
You know what they say, 123% of statistics are make up on the spot.

99.9% of the time smile

Oct 06 10 03:20 pm Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

The Studio Place wrote:
NRGP wrote:

hustler did get into trouble for underage girls around the time they started and also help in the desensitization through their chester the molester comic(which the author told his daughter later on in life that he wrote that about her).


And Playboy gets away with twins licking and sucking each others Boobs and more, which is incest! Incest is against the law in the Unites States of America. Hef gets away with it somehow..hhmmm   Now what?

incest is against the law?  can you cite which law that is please?

Oct 06 10 03:24 pm Link

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Thom Bone

Posts: 582

Shoreline, Washington, US

I can barely stand any of them.. they are way too retouched. May as well just read a porn comic. wink

Oct 06 10 03:24 pm Link

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Bob Roth

Posts: 452

Rowland Heights, California, US

Playboy.

Of all the major publications, I think Playboy is the only one that strives to show the models as pretty and/or beautiful.  I can't remember them trying to show a model as being an object or a gynacological study.  I must subconscoisusly emulate them in my own work.

I have had a continuous subscription to Playboy since the 2nd or 3rd year they started and my wife and I used to be somewhat regulars at The Playboy Club.  Do you mean to tell me they have articles?

Oct 06 10 03:25 pm Link

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Jose Luis

Posts: 2890

Dallas, Texas, US

Yeah - I think all of those magazine are horrible and the people who shoot for them are the worst photographers ever.  Especially me- Im the worst!  hehe

-Jose

Look- the truth is there is no clear cut line anymore.  I have shot pictorials for Hustler that are far less explicit than stuff published EVERY month on Playboy News stand Special Editions or Penthouse.  So you really cant base your decision on whether you find a vagina offensive or not.

However, if hardcore boy/ girl style photos are offensive to you- then you should definitely not check out a Hustler b/c there will be some of those pictorials as well as some less risque nude solo girl pictorials.

Oct 06 10 03:25 pm Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

AOP Studios wrote:

Only if it's between parent and child, NOT siblings. THAT'S the law.

Which law is this?

Oct 06 10 03:26 pm Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

Savannah- wrote:

in·cest   /ˈɪnsɛst/  Show Spelled
[in-sest]  Show IPA

–noun
1. sexual intercourse between closely related persons.
2. the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden.

I thought incest was just definition #1...but if two...I guess it's correct since I believe most incestual relationships cannot legally marry.

Oct 06 10 03:27 pm Link

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Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Midwest Expressions wrote:
Playboy, more of a classy style!

+1

Oct 06 10 03:29 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Jose Luis wrote:
Yeah - I think all of those magazine are horrible and the people who shoot for them are the worst photographers ever.  Especially me- Im the worst!  hehe

-Jose

Look- the truth is there is no clear cut line anymore.  I have shot pictorials for Hustler that are far less explicit than stuff published EVERY month on Playboy News stand Special Editions or Penthouse.  So you really cant base your decision on whether you find a vagina offensive or not.

However, if hardcore boy/ girl style photos are offensive to you- then you should definitely not check out a Hustler b/c there will be some of those pictorials as well as some less risque nude solo girl pictorials.

But Jose i thought we decided you are a perv?  I am reminded of that every time I examine you portfolio for updates smile

Oct 06 10 03:30 pm Link

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H E R B L I S H

Posts: 15189

Orlando, Florida, US

Widemag!

Oct 06 10 03:30 pm Link

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thatgirl

Posts: 47

Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

hmm well i think playboy and penthouse have the same style of photography now pretty much since its calmed down hmm
but penthouse has alot more naked chicks..which is better i think wink
and hustler...i dont like at all

Oct 06 10 03:31 pm Link

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Jaboy Photography

Posts: 354

New York, New York, US

Playboy has always sucked to me! way to much airbrush and makeup!!

Oct 06 10 03:31 pm Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I have worked with all three companies . . .

I won't comment on the content of each or compare them.

However, I will say that out of all three, I was treated the best by Penthouse. They respected my work as art, and afforded me the greatest artistic leeway to do whatever I wanted to do.

Hustler (or Taboo magazine) has been extremely professional in their dealings with me. They are very corporate in their approach and demand excellence from those they do business with.

Playboy has the reputation for being classy, however the photographers are treated like plumbers. When your sink is clogged up, you call a plumber.

That is the way that Mr. Hefner has always treated the photographers . . . call one in when you need a photo and ignore them the rest of the time. During the years that I shot for Playboy, Hefner had shown that he never liked photographers and didn't invite any of us to his parties, except to work.

KM

Oct 06 10 03:39 pm Link

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Jose Luis

Posts: 2890

Dallas, Texas, US

18+ Link (Contains open leg- be warned- definitely though less risque than stuff on MM) - ->  http://www.joseluisphoto.com/lfpsl/

That link is a pictorial I shot for Hustler May 2010 issue.

It is in no way more graphic than what you see every month in Penthouse.  If you are a Playboy Cyber Club member or buy their News stand Special Editions- you see more explicit photos all the time.

Also, in terms of quality- you may disagree- but I think the work speaks for itself- and it speaks in a very positive way.

The truth is- all of these magazines sometimes have strong and weak pictorials.  Same can be said for Maxim if you are looking from a pure photography perspective.

-Jose

Oct 06 10 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

Fotographic Aspirations

Posts: 1966

Long Beach, California, US

Art is collected by people , hung on walls or if lucky shown in a gallery or museum. Sometimes of great $ value, most often not :-)

Commercial photography, can and often contains aspects of art, but in the case of the publications noted is glanced at, enjoyed, thrown in a pile or hidden under a mattress, and its main reason for existence is to get the better part of a $ 10 bill out of ones pocket or a subscription. Thus the mindset of a photographer who wishes to pursue these publication should always keep in mind why such publications exist = $

FA

Oct 06 10 03:53 pm Link

Photographer

Eastfist

Posts: 3582

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

Penthouse, half class, half smut, right between Playboy and Hustler. Plus, the cartoons are funny.

Oct 06 10 03:55 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I wish they wouldn't photoshop the models' faces so much in those magazines.

Plastic skin is not sexy.

Presumably, that's why you get good-looking models to be in adult-oriented magazines.

Oct 06 10 04:03 pm Link

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aquarelle

Posts: 2056

Chicago, Illinois, US

NRGP wrote:
I did a bit of research on Kensey and hustler was mentioned. That is the only way I knew. haha Kensey also worked with a nazi during his research and his book on Sexual Behavior in the Human Male is statistically the fourth most harmful book to humanity it is under Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, and Quotations from Chairman Mao(just a little side note. Sorry haha.

How did you research Kinsey if you don't even know how to spell the guy's name?

Oct 06 10 04:07 pm Link