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Falsely saying "worked with Vogue Italia" ~rant~
I haven't read anything in this thread beyond your initial post, Neil. All I have to contribute is that people who believe it are just as moronic as people who falsley claim it. That's that. Photographers who('ve) actually work(ed) for Vogue Italia don't need to gloat about it; they're well aware that people who should know about it do know about it. In summary, I don't mind the people who write that kind of shit. All they're essentially doing is blowing themselves out to be someone they can only dream of becoming. It doesn't bother me. May 17 11 01:45 pm Link A-M-P wrote: Honestly, I think its just as bad. To someone who doesn't know about the competition, it looks like you've been published in vogue, you should be clear about what it is. May 17 11 01:51 pm Link A-M-P wrote: Not at all. A list of magazines they have worked for including Vogue Italia. May 17 11 01:51 pm Link Rich Burroughs wrote: I agree with this. Just listing "published by..." in one's credits without clarifying where the image was used or how it was published is misleading. A reasonable person would assume it was in the printed publication if clarification otherwise is not made. IMO, clearly stating how and where the image was used is perfectly reasonable. But, simply listing Vogue Italia in one's credits and stating "published by" or "worked for" without any other qualification would be misleading, at best. May 17 11 02:19 pm Link People pad and lie about their credits all the time. Unless their name is on the credit of a tearsheet, I don't worry about it much. You always look at their work over time and see if it's consistent. I was published in French Vogue and Architectural Digest, but never include it in my credits. I did the photographs for the designers and the articles were about their work - which happened to have my images. Credits are not as important to me. May 17 11 02:23 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: A false resume is a false resume. Regardless of the level of prestige they are trying to claim. May 17 11 02:30 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: Maybe I should claim to have been published by Model Mayhem, Facebook, MySpace, and Pbase! May 17 11 02:46 pm Link Jeff Fiore wrote: Write your credit like this... May 17 11 02:50 pm Link Christopher Hartman wrote: There are a lot of PLAYBOY model PHOTOGRAPHERS on MM May 17 11 02:56 pm Link i worked for play boy division and even got featured on vi on line website feature selections oftd . Printed in magazines as well . I like advertising work . printing material is most waht i like to show most May 17 11 03:08 pm Link Christopher Hartman wrote: LOL! May 17 11 03:10 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: If I post one of my photos in this thread and if someone quotes it, can I claim they published me? May 17 11 03:14 pm Link I have to say I agree with Neil on this. A few of my images are up on the site, but I never claim to be published by Vogue Italia, and I never post pics with the watermark logo anywhere.....no matter how cool it looks.  I'd be stoked if I ever got pic of the day, but even then I wouldn't feel "published". My ultimate goal is to get into the print mag, which would send me over the moon. ) Michael May 17 11 03:17 pm Link DanaColePix wrote: YES! It is annoying to see people posting this and then as soon as everyone on their friends list sees "Vogue Italia" they are flipping out and thinking that these people are elite, when in fact it is just a photo of the day contest. I have seen people with headlines..."I am featured on Vogue Italia!". Hah. Ok. May 17 11 07:09 pm Link B R U N O wrote: +1 May 17 11 07:09 pm Link punkuate wrote: +1 May 17 11 07:12 pm Link dirk olsen wrote: Same here! May 17 11 07:31 pm Link I have to admit that i have noticed this and it was annoying me also : funny I got selected for a pic of the day on the Vogue site i also have like another dozen of images just selected , and this his how i posted it on FB ,weeks ago .. I tried to promote what a great oportunity 1/100000000 thousand to maybe get seen buy some one who can make a difrence . Joao Carlos http://www.vogue.it/en/photovogue/Profi … e9764/User This is my Profile on Vogue Italia , The editors have chosen 14 of my images , You can also submit for the chance to get your work seen . I think you can vote for your favorite also , so go vote , or submit your own work , good luck all PhotoVogue www.vogue.it Quik note about what Stefano said about the Hasslblad award , this year they gave away 300 semi and finalist certifications , thats smart on there part , you have 300 guys promoting the brand like crazy , it dosent take the tittle away from the 10 winners , and those guys cant call themselves Hasseblad Masters ... They just shoot with blads ,, big difrence ... So just do your own thing and the value off your work and workethic will prevail ... Thanks and sorry about my spelling , (sent from my iphone ) Joao carlos Vogue .it ( picture off the day ). Hahahahahah Hasselblad Master --- this tittle is true May 18 11 03:00 am Link Thanks I never heard that vogue.it was open to online portfolios and had a POTD contest even though they call it being "featured" As soon as I read that I sent in my fashion photos and they deleted them! Noticing that they had all kinds of photos up not just fashion I sent in a selection of photos from a 30 year old street documentary I did and they started posting them as fast as I could send them, then later today I noticed that I was featured as photo of the day. Are there any other online fashion magazines of the caliber of vogue.it that have such contests? Do they publish them in other areas of the online magazine? What is the story about having a portfolio on vogue.it do they delete it after a certain period of time? I have many questions but they have few answers on their site. May 20 11 01:16 am Link Blaine , they made a good choice in selecting that pic. It has spirit> I'm not aware of any other title that hosts an ongoing POTD type of gallery. Also note once selected as a POTD it can go further in a sort of grand prize from the POTD entries. May 20 11 01:24 am Link Thanks its odd that was one of my least favorite photos. I reread the faq but I still dont understand about the voting or the "grand prize" what that consists of and about the best 3 photos being in the magazine itself do they mean the print magazine or the online site. And the best three of what? Your portfolio or the best three of the POTD of the month? May 20 11 01:41 am Link It is really quite simple, at least at this juncture in time. When someone is published in VOGUE or any other magazine for that matter, it implies in hard copy, unless it is a Web Zine like "Hint" magazine that does not claim to be anything other than that. So, anyone claiming to be published in VOGUE Italia, would have to be able to produce tear-sheets from the said magazine, otherwise that claim is fallacious at best...Oh and THEY know they as well!  PS...Vogue are starting to really understand the importance of creating the BUZZ on the internet, thus this new media form. Once you start seeing Meisel, Knight et al in that forum than perhaps you can start tooting your horn. May 20 11 02:05 am Link Christy - Lynn wrote: I guess it would be better to keep it a secret that you have vogue.it portfolio lest someone might think you are getting too big for your britches! Jun 15 11 10:58 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: It is unethical and the people who say, "everyone does it" are in denial about being unethical themselves. Jun 16 11 05:17 am Link Blaine Dixon wrote: Well I did go and send some pictures up after launching this thread. Their choices of selected images are all over the place. There is a lot of favouritism towards the Italians, yet enough room left for a different point of view. Jun 16 11 05:28 am Link Slightly off topic but when going through the contest "Consent to use of images" it reads "The author of the photographs herein declares ownership of all rights to images sent (understood as originals and their subsequent processing) and to their unconstrained use." (Here is the full text http://www.vogue.it/photovogue/en/ConsensoFoto.aspx ) Is that a fairly written agreement for photographers? I am terrible at legalese. ------ Timothy Nov 25 11 06:44 pm Link I see it more from models than photographers. Fake tear sheets, I mean. Nov 25 11 06:49 pm Link This only works for people who buy into the "greatness by association," concept. For those of us who don't believe this, people who say they worked for "Italian Vogue, etc, etc." end up just looking silly. Especially after we look at their work. ;-) Nov 25 11 06:52 pm Link Fred Greissing wrote: That's nuts. Glad you took what's yours. Nov 25 11 06:52 pm Link I don't worry about what others say, do, or claim. I am me, and that's who I worry about. Kevin Russo -Photographer www.KR-Photos.Com Nov 25 11 06:53 pm Link Seems to me that one could reference posting on an Internet site legitimately by just referencing Vogue Italia Online for instance. Of course if the intention is to misrepresent - they wouldn't add Online... Nov 25 11 07:00 pm Link I just saw a photographer's MM page, saying he was an award-winning photographer and that's he's photographed for Playboy, Vogue, Cosmo, Bazaar, and a lot of other major magazines, but when I looked at his photos .... YUCK! A GWC could do better, in my opinion. Yeah, some photographers fake their experience, but their photos tell the truth on how good they really are. Nov 25 11 07:13 pm Link I find the misrepresentation, and outright fraud so common online very disturbing. In my area we have "beauty, and fashion photographers" having had absolutely no beauty, or fashion clients, using such fraud to sell worthless" portfolio packages" to naïve novice models . Before anyone gives me the standard "and this affects you how?" line, let me say there is no benefit to me of being on a site having zero credibility with the actual commercial photographic community. The fictitious accomplishments, fake magazine covers, bogus credentials, and widespread misrepresentation are among the reasons to move on. Nov 25 11 07:22 pm Link one of my model friends just said she got a shot done for vogue italia online lol Nov 25 11 07:26 pm Link Ah it happens all the time - I have seen photographers where I live who have done submissions for magazines here that werent actually accepted by the magazine but they have put fake tearsheets together with a title page and credits including the mags logo and said it was for them on their website. I think its ridiculous and dishonest but unfortunately people keep doing it but I cant help thinking karma is just around the corner... Nov 25 11 07:41 pm Link I see this kind of false self-promotion all the time. Every place I go I find somebody who call them selves as "professional" photographer just because they took some photographs of their beautiful friends and can show it in their flickr and facebook. Or because they went to a holiday and took many pictures and say that they ware working abroad. Or just because they have a fancy camera and fancy lens they feel confident to say that they are "professional" even though they never ever got paid or did a serious work related with photography. They are everywhere. Some of them tell me that I should say that I am professional as well because it is marketing strategy. But I fell incredulous to say that I am professional if I can't even use the photography to help paying my bills. Nov 26 11 03:35 am Link Christopher Hartman wrote: I have photographed a model who was photographed for Czech Playboy. Nov 26 11 03:50 am Link Blaine Dixon wrote: It's a little more prestigious than MM's POTD - lol! Nov 26 11 04:02 am Link I continue to post some to the Vogue Italia gallery. I am always surprised of what they do approve , and what they don't. Very hit or miss, no rhyme or reason. Yet there are some very creative pieces posted daily. It's a great place to look at what people are doing all over the world. I did see a FB tag today though saying something like they had a command to have this picture published by VI. It was just another submitted picture. There are also people posting their images right after uploading which are soon to be denied. So it all comes down to the little pitter patter of an amateurs hopes that he or she would be truly published in such a magazine. It is possible too, as eventually they will take all the daily choices and publish them in the magazine or in a special magazine. Not the same as shooting a series as Greg Lotus would but still , a wonderful way to be published and distributed. Nov 26 11 04:06 am Link Playboy, Vogue because their house hold names and it makes the photographer so much more interesting to models. Put down Mccann Erickson (one of my previous clients) and no one will know who they are even thou' their a major adv. agency. I'd prefer to shoot an adv. for Benetton and get published in all the mags rather than an editorial for Vogue. Nov 26 11 04:17 am Link |
