Photographer
FacadePhoto
Posts: 48
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, US
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum!
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
Should? Yes.
Be required to? No.
Photographer
FEN RIR Photo
Posts: 725
Westminster, Colorado, US
I always do, but I find that I also hardly get credit from the model, witch I'd love to get, since the models get all the views...
Photographer
Chris Maxwell
Posts: 684
Sterling, Virginia, US
Yes, they should. Why not?
However, the photo load app could be improved to make this easier to do.
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 8908
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their llamas. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a llama they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both llamas and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! Why haven't you given credit to this llama ?
![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121023/17/5087389442acb_m.jpg]()
Photographer
Phil Edelstein
Posts: 663
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
If you like to be credited when/if they post one of your images on their port, you should reciprocate and do the exact same 
Photographer
Ron Spackman
Posts: 210
High River, Alberta, Canada
A number of models I've worked with are not on MM, and there are even a couple who don't want to be identified in the caption. Otherwise I credit every MM model I work with. And I hope to be credited on the model's site as well.
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 8463
Imperial, California, US
I will always credit any member involved in my images. This site is for networking, not crediting is selfish and stupid, unless someone asks not to be credited, of course.
Photographer
Abbitt Photography
Posts: 13564
Washington, Utah, US
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! Half the models I shoot don't have MM portfolios to credit to. (There are sources of models other than MM believe it or not) Some models for reasons of their own don't want to be credited.
I think it's nice to credit models, but for the model's sake when she wants that. I certainly don't feel other photographers have an obligation to point me towards models. That's what the browse feature, availability notices and casting call features are for.
Photographer
Rays Fine Art
Posts: 7504
New York, New York, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.
Be required to? No. Sounds right to me EXCEPT:
When the model prefers not to be credited. (Not unusual when the models does
something outside of her preferred genre, has an exclusive agency
arrangement, etc.)
When the model doesn't have an MM account
When the model leaves MM
IMHO, as always.
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
some models aren't on mayhem or are no longer on mayhem.
i recently upgraded to premium and uploaded like 50 images and haven't taken the time yet to go back and do all the credits.
if you really want to know about a model maybe message the photographer?
Photographer
FacadePhoto
Posts: 48
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, US
Why haven't you given credit to this model ?
I did but sometimes the credits disappear. Just fixed it. Thanks!
Photographer
Jhono Bashian
Posts: 2464
Cleveland, Ohio, US
If I shoot a MM talent I will always credit him/her.
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! And that just might be the point.
1. Models may not want to be tracked down by MM photographers.
2. Photographer might not want other photographers tracking down "their" models.
3. Model may not be a MM member.
4. Photographer may be lazy or technically incompetent to create a credit.
I'll admit it's in my cynical nature to assume #2 when I see no models in a an entire portfolio credited. But I've been proven wrong on occasion (but just on occasion).
Photographer
S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them... ![https://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png]()
Photographer
Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2644
Savannah, Georgia, US
the only time I don't credit an MM model is.....
If she asks me not to.
Or, if her profile says she does not do nudes, but does nudes with me.
Photographer
Fotografica Gregor
Posts: 4126
Alexandria, Virginia, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.
Be required to? No. +1
Unless the model specifically asks *not* to be credited, it should be done -
and don't forget the MUAs, hair stylists, wardrobe stylists, designers etc.
"hoarding" models or resources is selfish, and if I were a model or production team person, I would watch for this. It's a networking site, everyone looking for expanding opportunities.
Model
JessieLeigh
Posts: 2109
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
EVERYONE (photographers, models, stylists, makeup artists, hairstylists) on MM should credit EVERYONE that woorked on a shoot, unless specifically requested not to by that person.
Model
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
maybe the model isn't on MM
maybe the model didn't want to be credited
if the model is on MM and if she doesn't mind being credited, it's certainly appreciated if the photographer credits. But SHOULD they? no.
Photographer
REMOVED
Posts: 1546
Atlanta, Georgia, US
My models are signed agency talents, and choose not to participate on MM, many agencies would frown on their models posting their work on free, public, glamour modeling sites, as they feel it would deminish the value of their "brand."
I do include their mames with the images.
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
The MAJORITY of models I work are NOT on MM and those who are, get credit when required.
You're probably better off sourcing your own talent from as many venues as possible.
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
New Century Studio wrote:
My models are signed agency talents, and don't need to participate on MM, many agencies would frown on their models posting their work on free, public, glamour modeling sites, as they feel it would deminish the value of their "brand."
I do include their mames with the images. This!^^
Model
Melodye Joy
Posts: 545
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! This applies to anyone here, I believe...
I have only had a case of non-credits once and I do feel that it may hinder, as I had somene come to me inquiring to collaborate, however they mentioned in passing it was difficult to find me (took this person 3 days).
Not that I am an expert, but here is some friendly advice...
What if you found the photographer/model/stylist/designer page, however without credit, your going through friends lists and doing unessassary research for said artist you really want to work with.
Even if you don't know their MM #, or nickname, or they don't have one...give credit where it is due.
I have credited assistants as well, because you never know when that assistant becomes the photographer/designer/stylist/model themselves.
Just my thoughts. Hope this helps
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4861
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Abbitt Photography wrote:
Half the models I shoot don't have MM portfolios to credit to. (There are sources of models other than MM believe it or not) Some models for reasons of their own don't want to be credited. +1
That covers most of it. There are also those models who are happy to do work with me of types that they have no interest in marketing or doing on an ongoing basis and additionally those who do not wish to be credited on the internet but appreciate mentions at shows or in print.
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
S W I N S K E Y wrote:
i refuse to credit models because i don't want other local photographers to contact them and shoot better pictures with them... 
Personally I always try to credit everybody on the team as a public 'thank you' for their efforts.
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! For whatever reason, some do, some don't. What does it really matter how someone else decides to work?
You just have to have that one model? According to a search, there are 321,000 other models on MM to work with. I would think at least 2-3 of them would fit your parameters. 
Model
Lola Magdalene Scott
Posts: 79
Lexington, Kentucky, US
I think communication should be a big part of it. I tell the photographers that I work with where the pictures will be posted, and they always receive credit. Never ran into a situation where some one would rather remain anonymous. If they asked me not to, I would always honor their request..but don't think it should be mandatory.
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1020
Boston, Massachusetts, US
I credit everyone for purely selfish reasons, because I think it makes me look more bad-ass the more people I can credit, especially all on one photo.
In all seriousness, I don't really care what other people do.
Photographer
Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10583
Los Angeles, California, US
Not all models are members here. That's a reason I don't credit them.
Others may not want credits with a certain photographer.
Several reasons why.
Model
Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1755
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.
Be required to? No. this.
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
For the most part if their isn't a linked credit for the model I assume they aren't on MM, or they have asked not to be credited.
Model
Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1755
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
Should? Yes.
Be required to? No. this.
Photographer
James S
Posts: 1103
Spokane Valley, Washington, US
I always credit every MM model that I work with. If there's no credit, the model is not on MM.
Photographer
FacadePhoto
Posts: 48
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, US
Michael Pandolfo wrote:
And that just might be the point.
1. Models may not want to be tracked down by MM photographers.
2. Photographer might not want other photographers tracking down "their" models.
3. Model may not be a MM member.
4. Photographer may be lazy or technically incompetent to create a credit.
I'll admit it's in my cynical nature to assume #2 when I see no models in a an entire portfolio credited. But I've been proven wrong on occasion (but just on occasion).
Photographer
Farenell Photography
Posts: 18832
Albany, New York, US
MM is not the most stable of websites. It works when its up but Lord only knows if it'll stay that way.
Reasons why it people may not credit the other (in no particular order):
1- a glitch in the site lost them (this has happened to me more times than I can count)
2- a lag in uploading & people may have quit the site for whatever reasons or moved or changed their stagename making it extremely difficult to find or search (I've had this happen a bunch of times)
3- they might not even be on MM (at least 1/2 of my port I initially found on other sites)
4- might not want to be credited as the model particularly if their day-job is in a conservatively sensitive job occupation (like legal or education)
5- might do the content they did specifically for you because the two of you may have a good working relationship but not want to do it for others
6- the model after shooting might have fallen off the face of the earth (I've had that happen a bunch of times)
Possible solutions particularly if people:
A- use MM's "list" feature if people aren't crediting or forgot to do it or whatever
B- message the other party asking them to forward your contact info to the other party & hope for the best
- suck it up, deal w/ it, & move on.
Photographer
The Falcons Nest
Posts: 600
Brooklyn, New York, US
Erik Ballew wrote:
I always do, but I find that I also hardly get credit from the model, witch I'd love to get, since the models get all the views... +100
Then when they feel they struck gold they'll come back and ask to shoot TFP. But you gotta love em'.
But I do have a couple of models that ask me not to credit the nudes I shoot with them. Especially when they say they don't shoot nudes with any body else.
Photographer
Rob Photosby
Posts: 4810
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
It is interesting that, so far, the replies to this thread are 4 to 1 photographers to models.
Maybe it is just co-incidence, but it fits with my impression that photographers are more aware than models of the etiquette with crediting.
Photographer
Rob Photosby
Posts: 4810
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
The Falcons Nest wrote:
I do have a couple of models that ask me not to credit the nudes I shoot with them. Especially when they say they don't shoot nudes with any body else. Many of us have a few of these models, which is sad in a way because it can mean that they believe that being heart-stoppingly beautiful can cause problems for them. Even worse, they may be right!
Photographer
Harold Rose
Posts: 2925
Calhoun, Georgia, US
FacadePhoto wrote:
There are many photographers, here on MM, who do not credit their models. This makes it difficult for other photographers to track down a model they might want to work with. Maybe that's the whole point of not providing a credit!
I'd like to hear comments from both models and photographers about listing--or NOT listing--model credits on a photo.
It's your forum! I think it should always be offered
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