Forums > Photography Talk > How many of you shoot with hotlights ?

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J O H N

Posts: 564

San Jose, California, US

I've never shot with hotlights till last week, they are absolutely amazing! What I want to know, is how many of you photographers use them - do you use them solely? Is there an alien bee version of hotlights... Would also love to see examples of your shots with them. smile

Jun 22 08 03:29 pm Link

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DVS

Posts: 10000

Detroit, Michigan, US

John DeFiora wrote:
I've never shot with hotlights till last week, they are absolutely amazing! What I want to know, is how many of you photographers use them - do you use them solely? Is there an alien bee version of hotlights... Would also love to see examples of your shots with them. smile

All I ever shhot is with hot lights...I don't have the patience to figure out lighting without seeing it first hand.  And all mine are Home Depot shop lights with daylight bulbs.  big_smile

Examples are in my port as I can't post them here because of the bewbies.  =P

Jun 22 08 03:38 pm Link

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Peter Claver

Posts: 27130

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I do.

Either electrical ones (I have a 1KW Strand Fresnelite and 2 250W Lowel Pro-lights) or the sun.

Jun 22 08 03:47 pm Link

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brian alexander

Posts: 60

Pasadena, California, US

check out HMI's (they are expensive.)

nice natural light and a reflector is about as cheap as you can get with proper planning ect.

Jun 22 08 03:49 pm Link

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Greg Coleman

Posts: 2293

Sanford, Florida, US

I shoot with a budget Smith-Victor set of three 500W hotlights, tungsten bulbs.  Two have umbrellas, the other's bare for use as a background or hairlight.  Everything in my port that's not an outdoor shot was lit with them.

Greg

Jun 22 08 03:49 pm Link

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StratMan

Posts: 684

Detroit, Michigan, US

i was weaned on hotlights. i love em, you can see samples in my automotive work. we use strobes as well, but much of what is done is with hotlights, from inkies to 5K Arris & Mole-Richardsons.

m-a

Jun 22 08 03:50 pm Link

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Glen McDowell

Posts: 327

Monterey, California, US

i do on occasion.  smith victors that i've picked up at garage sales with fancy daylight bulbs (ECT? and BBA).  i often use a barndoor setup on the front of the reflector.

https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070209/12/45ccb3b65d93a_m.jpg
https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080405/22/47f833442606c_m.jpg

Jun 22 08 03:54 pm Link

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BarryH

Posts: 864

Taipei City, Taipei City, Taiwan

I do.

The sun is a really, really hot light, right?

Jun 22 08 03:56 pm Link

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Caity B

Posts: 2977

Bangor, Maine, US

I do from time to time, I use Mole Richardson hotlights.

Jun 22 08 03:56 pm Link

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Corwin Prescott

Posts: 1722

Portland, Oregon, US

I used to shoot exclusively with hot lights,  I really really really don't care for them.  They were great for learning how to light things since you can see what the light is doing, but I love freedom from tripod and extremely slow shutter speeds that strobes has given me.

Jun 22 08 03:58 pm Link

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Joe Koz

Posts: 1981

Lititz, Pennsylvania, US

John DeFiora wrote:
I've never shot with hotlights till last week, they are absolutely amazing! What I want to know, is how many of you photographers use them - do you use them solely? Is there an alien bee version of hotlights... Would also love to see examples of your shots with them. smile

Alien Bees have modeling lamps built in. They let you get a read on where the shadows fall and how they interact. Basically you see the same thing you see when you're moving your hot lights around (only maybe not as bright).

Jun 22 08 03:59 pm Link

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Screaming J Hyde

Posts: 7847

Sacramento, California, US

There are some awesome new kits from Wescott, Photoflex, etc. that use several color-balanced (5400K, I think) flourescent bulbs; hot lights that aren't actually hot.  You can use 1, some, or all of the bulbs in a single light; I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some have dimmer switches of some kind.  The baby people LOVE them, as there are no flashing lights to distract or startle an infant.

Were I not so invested in my current sysytem, I would consider them for my studio.  I don't know how they'd be outdoors, though; maybe not enough power to balance natural light during the day.

Jun 22 08 04:00 pm Link

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WinterWolf Studios

Posts: 418

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

I love hot lights - we use them all the time. Our strobes are much more expensive but we never want to use them.

Jun 22 08 04:01 pm Link

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Doug Lester

Posts: 10591

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Not since I got my first strobes in the mid 70s.

Jun 22 08 04:03 pm Link

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Black Ricco

Posts: 3486

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

I luvs me my hot lights!

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Black_Ricco/Lights.jpg

Jun 22 08 04:09 pm Link

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LongWindFPV Visuals

Posts: 7052

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

God's hot lights are awesome

Jun 22 08 04:10 pm Link

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Talan M

Posts: 517

BUSHKILL, Pennsylvania, US

If you shoot hot models, you should have hot lights. lol

Jun 22 08 04:10 pm Link

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J O H N

Posts: 564

San Jose, California, US

Talan M wrote:
If you shoot hot models, you should have hot lights. lol

this is true! my friend let me use his, westcotts i believe - they were awesome, i needa get a cheapy pair!

Jun 22 08 11:19 pm Link

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Ken Nash

Posts: 184

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I shoot with hot lights and strobes. These shots are with hot lights.
https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071231/07/4778dbfe7cde4_m.jpg
https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071209/19/475c860ea6be5_m.jpg
The top one is with two 500 watt work lights from Home Depot. The bottom on is with a 2K Fresnel.

Jun 22 08 11:26 pm Link

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Kollisions Studio

Posts: 1897

Los Angeles, California, US

I use hotlights. I'm starting to experiment with flash units though.

Jun 22 08 11:39 pm Link

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Kevin_Connery

Posts: 3307

Fullerton, California, US

Don't forget to check out some older MM threads on this topic as well:


Continuous Lights

* Continuous light! help!
* photoflex starlights?How many of you shoot with hotlights ?[/url]
* Question: Halogen work lights for lighting??? (Home Depot lights)
* Arri continuous lighting
* Fluorescents for stills??
* compact fluorescent lights; viable for hot light?
* Hot lights and lighting questions
* KINO-FLO lighting (alternatives) (DIY Fluorescent lights)
* I Need QUICK lighting Help ! (Flood-lamp fixture)
* home depot lighting

Jun 23 08 12:18 am Link

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Tim Summa

Posts: 2514

San Antonio, Texas, US

Black Ricco wrote:
I luvs me my hot lights!

https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Black_Ricco/Lights.jpg

It would be fun to have the old guys tell us about what they see in each of these lights and how they are to be used. Nice collection of tools.

Jun 23 08 12:45 am Link

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J O H N

Posts: 564

San Jose, California, US

Tim Summa wrote:

It would be fun to have the old guys tell us about what they see in each of these lights and how they are to be used. Nice collection of tools.

my thoughts exactly. it was my firs ttime using em, i think i was at iso 400, not bad, and the pix were sharp... it was fun seeing where the shadows laid upon the face. i felt it sped up my flow

Jun 23 08 12:47 am Link

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Nathan Zahorchak

Posts: 28

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I was taught studio lighting with hot lights in school and using medium (6×6 cm) and large (4"x5") format cameras in 2000-2002.  Until I have my own studio, I have just been using a couple 580EX II's and umbrellas with my Canon DSLRs.  They work well for me, but can be difficult for those who cannot visualize how the light is going to illuminate the subject.  The thing I do not miss about those old studio lights is how hot they made the room and lack of portability.

Jun 23 08 01:12 am Link

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Caspers Creations

Posts: 11409

Kansas City, Missouri, US

I prefer hotlights.

Jun 23 08 01:46 am Link

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Koray

Posts: 6720

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

I do but both models and me start melting in two hours...

Jun 23 08 01:52 am Link

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666photography

Posts: 64

Austin, Texas, US

I shoot solely with hotlights. LowellDPs.

Jun 23 08 02:43 am Link

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C R A V E

Posts: 205

Los Angeles, California, US

i do from time to time....but then i promise my models lunch lol. it really does get very hot under them, so work quickly and never forget how your subjects will be feeling in front of them. also watch the eyes...i know photographers who compensate for the heat of the lights with fans on the set. invariably, within 5-10 minutes the models eyes are bloodshot. heat and wind, ya the perfect combo for irritated eyes.

Jun 23 08 02:50 am Link

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warrenlee

Posts: 190

San Francisco, California, US

I love hot lights, but scrims are a pain in the ass, and if you use them for beauty photography they can get the model sweaty if too close.
I really only prefer to use hot lights for product photography..other than that ...Profoto 7Bs all the way big_smile

Jun 23 08 02:54 am Link

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S

Posts: 21678

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I rented a Lowell for the shot below.  Liked it so much I went out and bought two!

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080411/14/47ffa8be79372.jpg

Jun 23 08 11:28 am Link

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ChanStudio - OtherSide

Posts: 5403

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Models hate hot lights during summer time.  The only time any model likes hot lights is when the environment (in a cold room, out side in winter time, etc) is really cold.

  Imagine the melt down of makeup. smile

Jun 23 08 11:31 am Link

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Ray Holyer

Posts: 2000

I've never found hotlights too hot for summer.  No air conditioning, just plenty of open windows.

Jun 23 08 11:36 am Link

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Photography by Mark

Posts: 167

Yorktown, Virginia, US

Lowell DP's here as well for inside work

Jun 23 08 11:39 am Link

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Nick McCarthy

Posts: 22

Dallas, Texas, US

Tim Summa wrote:
It would be fun to have the old guys tell us about what they see in each of these lights and how they are to be used. Nice collection of tools.

Well, I'm not an old guy, but I can tell you what they are. That's a nice collection of Mole-Richardson lights. They're pretty much the workhorse of the film industry. He's got a lot of Fresnels, both Babies (1000w) and some 2K's, and a couple of big softlights. They're all very capable, heavy duty, rugged lights. A lot of Mole-Richardson's in production today were probably produced decades ago, though they're still making new gear - it just rarely breaks.

Jun 23 08 03:19 pm Link

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Lanya B

Posts: 1825

Boston, Massachusetts, US

My school has them so hopefully I'll be working with them next year.

Jun 23 08 05:14 pm Link

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Black Ricco

Posts: 3486

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

Nick McCarthy wrote:

Well, I'm not an old guy, but I can tell you what they are. That's a nice collection of Mole-Richardson lights. They're pretty much the workhorse of the film industry. He's got a lot of Fresnels, both Babies (1000w) and some 2K's, and a couple of big softlights. They're all very capable, heavy duty, rugged lights. A lot of Mole-Richardson's in production today were probably produced decades ago, though they're still making new gear - it just rarely breaks.

Yup, you called it right. Those little lights are these. They are the handiest little things.

Jun 23 08 05:19 pm Link

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Minneapolis Headshots

Posts: 1114

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Corwin Prescott wrote:
I used to shoot exclusively with hot lights,  I really really really don't care for them.  They were great for learning how to light things since you can see what the light is doing, but I love freedom from tripod and extremely slow shutter speeds that strobes has given me.

I had two 500w hot lights. These let me shoot at 2.8 and about 60-100th of a second with iso 500.
My first strobes were just a/c strobes (I have bigger lights now) and with just those two lights I could shoot at f.9 at 200th with a 100 iso. I do not understand why people use hot lights. They use so much more power, they make models sweat and nothing is sharp.

What are the good reasons for using hot lights?

Jun 23 08 05:26 pm Link

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svenler

Posts: 1771

San Diego, California, US

The advantage of hotlights is that you can basically paint with light and see it. The sun is a great hotlight at that. In the studio, I use Spiderlights.

This one was done with Spiders:
https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071112/20/4739035858950_m.jpg

Jun 23 08 06:30 pm Link

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JACOBFAKHERI

Posts: 798

Abbott, Texas, US

Images By Jonathan wrote:

I had two 500w hot lights. These let me shoot at 2.8 and about 60-100th of a second with iso 500.
My first strobes were just a/c strobes (I have bigger lights now) and with just those two lights I could shoot at f.9 at 200th with a 100 iso. I do not understand why people use hot lights. They use so much more power, they make models sweat and nothing is sharp.

What are the good reasons for using hot lights?

lol, I used to ask the same question.

Now I know better.

For fashion people, the advantage is insane. We can shoot as fast as our cameras allow, so if we have models moving quickly to move clothes around to catch movement, no issues. We can also shoot the entire shoot on an HD camera and then just cut a scene from the video to use as a photograph.

Of course, you have to understand that primarily what amateurs are going to have access or funds to get hot lights with are going to be limited, and you aren't going to get the good stuff.  At most you might be able to get a 750watt light set or something.

If you have access to HMI lights, or flourescent banks, etc, and can drop more than $1000 just on RENTING the lights for day, its a huge advantage. The majority of images I've shot are all done on mixed source hot lights.

Jun 23 08 06:36 pm Link

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Furano Imaging

Posts: 94

Rancho Santa Margarita, California, US

Not a pro here! I'm learning. I got this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/2 … Flood.html
to start learning and practice since using my speedlights doesn't let me see the light/shadow even with the 1 sec modeling light.
Am I on the right path to learn on lighting?
Please note that this is a hooby for me and only that, so no professional lighting in the future.
Thanks!

Jun 23 08 07:17 pm Link