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Annoying things that photographers do
What has annoyed me quite a lot is when a photographer comes to you offering the work, asks for a price AND agrees then fails to set a date. What is with that? Apr 15 12 05:07 pm Link Of course we don't set a date. This is not a dating site. Duh. Apr 15 12 05:13 pm Link I know what I do that pisses some models off: Tell the model what the actual budget is for the project. It's never $125/hr. Tell new models that I don't offer paid gigs without a test shoot first. I get blocked for suck activity. However, other models have no problem with that and they work with me every two weeks and get paid. To each their own! Apr 15 12 05:14 pm Link PTPhotoUT wrote: I mean setting a date and time for the shoot to take place Apr 15 12 05:22 pm Link They come into model's threads and bitch about what models do, in their forum. Assholes! Apr 15 12 05:25 pm Link Mnemosyne Photography wrote: Oh my goodness! Apr 15 12 05:27 pm Link PTPhotoUT wrote: whoosh. Apr 16 12 07:26 am Link Saying things like you have big boobs or taking comments too far. Getting too "excited" Comparing you to other models they have worked with in a negative way such as saying something like your hair looks great but that last model she didn't look to good. Expecting you to get nude when there was an agreement to not do any nudity beforehand. Apr 16 12 02:08 pm Link Jessie Shannon wrote: +1 Apr 16 12 02:19 pm Link I'm not a control freak as a photographer (take it with a grain of salt), and usually prefer to not giving any instructions whatsoever if at all, and just watch and shoot in "semi-candid" style on the spot (usually TFP). I found that this method, being really uncomfortable for some models, can produce the absolutely stunning genuine poses and face expressions which models never ever had in their ports, for better or for worse, for some  don't check it in my port, though. I should add that I shoot much more street candids than fashion or life style Apr 16 12 04:39 pm Link Eurocat wrote: I can only remember two instances where I fed a model. This one time at band camp, I'm just kidding. Apr 16 12 07:20 pm Link James Sioux wrote: She propably would have turned green and tore all her clothes off. Apr 17 12 10:15 am Link Being called pet names! Ah, nothing can make your skin crawl when you're called names reserved alone for boyfriend status. 'Honey', 'Baby', 'Sweetie'! Sigh. Or when he is an older man and treats you like a little girl, especially during lingerie/nude shoots,it's just weird. Other little things like 'Show me your butt taco' is pretty bad, just please don't refer to any of my body parts with crude slang or rude adjectives. Ah, and when they try to help you dress/undress without warning of purpose, or reach out and grab your intimate things before you can place them nicely somewhere after you remove them, just something about a stranger pawing your freshly warmed under things without even the thought that it might be weird  The biggest thing though....out of everything else, is when they put you in dangerous situations, or have you do something ridiculous in heels-that causes you injury, and they don't even care, they just hold the camera and wait for you to keep posing. All of these are very rare cases though, I love my photographers, and it's rare to have just one time shoots, I prefer forming solid creative working relationships for years Apr 17 12 12:00 pm Link As a new member on MM forums and building my studio workü/port (mainly a wedding & event photographer), I just wanted to thank you for such an interesting thread. what I pull out of this as a summary is quite a lot of common sense and most goes with communication... : 1)Plan ahead but not too far ahead 2)A couple of emails, a call is good. too many emails and calls kill emails and calls 3)Don't change the plans at last minute 4)Don't push limits, define them with model and stick to them 5)Be respectful to all your models 6)Don't be over-friendly (even if you're stressed and that's your reliever) 7)Beware of what could be considered as flirtious or too personal 8)Be communicative on how the shoot is going 9)Don't be technically focused... it's about humans with feelings and we all have our issues 10)Don't rant about other photographers or models 11)Don't be pushy about them eating or having something, even if its courtesy accept that they can kindly turn it down 12)Don't touch models (unless clearly asking as global and on specific ideas) 13)Deliver timely and if there is an issue communicate about it 14) During shoot, be timely... don't go overboard 15) don't beg that model puts your images on her portfolio... 16) discomfort comes from discomfort... if we're shooting nude as adults, don't make a big thing of it, just get to work. 17) clothing wise, don't ask for millions of things, try to be as specific as can be during planning 18) don't use the words shoot, capture, baby, darling, sexy all over... it's lame 19) photographers : take your time to play with angles, and do other shoots whilst model is in place. don't just click once, ok, done. I would add another few points, positive ones though a) Make sure model feels comfortable (bring music or ask what music she could bring) b) Thank model for her time and work after the shoot and do it again when delivering images I think there must be more but as a first summary i believe it's a good start. Apr 17 12 03:59 pm Link ^^^^ Yup yup. You can 'beg' me all you want, just don't bully me... Also, I like that you declared the stuff above 'common sense'. *puts on her poshest London accent* But why is it called common when in truth it is quite rare! Apr 17 12 07:19 pm Link Eurocat : I believe we are all students of life, and teachers in life at the same time. everything we are talking about here is 99.9% communication, and we're in a world where communication is all over the place, without really being there. We use GPS instead of asking our way, we tweet to our friend at the end of the table, we FB send a b'day wish instead of giving a 30seconds phone call which will trill 1 million times more... as per common sense, we are all human, and all have our education, environment, feelings, limits... and I believe it's all about talking it through, shortly, and if some act in a certain way, it's also partially because we let them do it sometimes, without being blunt we can just show how it would be so much better if it didn't happen Fact : All the situations in this thread have happened to 1 or many models/photographers Issue : It's not putting anyone in a good working environment to have fun and work well (work and fun does go together yes yes it's possible  ) Solving it : Say something directly to the person, face to face... now that's communication... and it rarely happens. Let's be sincere and true to ourselves, have we, photographers or you models, ever dared to kindly tell the other party that they felt uncomfortable with all this up front ? I believe most of us don't dare say it to people, but we rant about it on forums (here it's not ranting, it's sharing information). Common sense it is, but if nobody ever tells people, how can we really improve ? i think it's as simple as : I really thank you for the food offer, it's really kind of you, but without wanting to offend you, I have my food habits. I'd be very happy with a huge glass of water though, it's worth all the food you could offer. or Please, I feel uncomfortable with you touching me or moving me around as you do, and it will show on photos. Please just ask me what you want from me on the shoot, i'll be happy to try, and if it doesn't work then we can work together on getting it right. Ii've been working on my modelling skills for a while and i'm sure I can do it, as I trust you can take photos and don't ask for your exposure settings or come and touch you during the shoot. Apr 18 12 03:19 am Link Miss Rachel Elizabeth wrote: Same with texting me to death!! I'm trying to DRIVE!!! Apr 18 12 05:11 pm Link MadMoon Studio wrote: Priceless! Apr 18 12 05:14 pm Link PHOTOS BY DILLEN wrote: hahahaa love it Apr 18 12 05:22 pm Link Eurocat wrote: That must have been your first time shooting with this person or else he would know your eating habits. Apr 18 12 05:23 pm Link If I have a boyfriend. Apr 18 12 05:28 pm Link D S P wrote: What's that mean? You shouldn't be doin that. Apr 18 12 06:33 pm Link Dan OMell wrote: Interesting because I'm the opposite. I'm a control freak and am constantly directing the model whoever the model is. But I don't think I'm obnoxious about it. Apr 18 12 06:50 pm Link SamanthaLynn92 wrote: I would not expect anyone to learn my eating habits, first shoot or 20th, but when I say NO, THANK YOU the first three times, please leave it alone already. Apr 18 12 08:54 pm Link PTPhotoUT wrote: Some photographers set up a travel shoot with me, cancel, and then never ever reschedule. *cries* Apr 18 12 09:11 pm Link ddtphoto wrote: i do as well. i can never figure it out as i can do much more strenuous stuff and not break a sweat, but put a model in front of me and a camera in my hand, and i need to wear a headband like carmello anthony. Apr 18 12 09:12 pm Link NounStudio wrote: I have seen a lot of photogs break a sweat (thinking to myself that I should be the one sweating), but that doesn't bother me, as long as you won't get any of it on the lense!!! Apr 19 12 08:59 am Link I have minimal experience and don't consider myself a model, but I encountered the same issue with the only two photographers I've so far worked with. Both were quiet and shy and rather awkward. I was not able to relax. Neither of them offered much advice on posing or gave advice/ideas on anything at all, for that matter. They wanted me (the noob) to be the creative one. Both shoots turned out badly. I would never expect a great outcome from the first few times, but I just would have thought the photographers would've been able to help me out (advice & tips) just a little bit. Is that an unrealistic expectation? Apr 20 12 12:05 am Link Jessie Michele wrote: I think this is totally realistic, and I believe it's about expectations as you say. IMHO, it should be a bit of both when both have little experience or some experience. Sharing ideas with other photos, poses found, going for trial and error maybe, showing model images, trying again, and having fun. Apr 20 12 01:31 am Link Holy moly! Ten pages already...I guess we can be an annoying group!  Apr 20 12 01:36 am Link PhotographybyT wrote: AWWWWW. We love you, really. We just don't admit to it... Apr 20 12 01:13 pm Link Eurocat wrote: *In best robot voice, a la the tall creepy boss in Grandmas Boy* Please - sit on my face! Apr 20 12 02:21 pm Link Eurocat wrote: That's so annoying! Apr 20 12 02:24 pm Link Photographers that insist in order to be "serious" I need to pose naked and spread eagle. Photographers who tell me that they'll shoot me if i do....sexual...things for them (this happened once) Designers who take a million years to give you measurement dates. Photographers who don't understand what "implied" means Apr 23 12 04:18 pm Link I'm wondering how many of you are working with FAUXtographers and not PHOtographers. For those of you that get upset about having to "bring everything," try this... Photograph everything you have. Make a free website (dime a dozen). Post it all up there. Then tell the photographer to choose. Problem solved. What bothers me is fauxtographers out there calling themselves photographers. Giving professionals like myself a bad name. You'll reply with "everyone calls themselves a professional photographer," to which I'll reply with facebook.com/arkitography (because I'm not patient enough to explain everything I do). I don't think the problem with this industry is pet peeves or poor behavior on the photographer's behalf (symptom), but that it's actually been diluted with so many fauxtographers that don't know any better. The ethics/morals of photography has been polluted by ignorance and laziness. It just is what it is. Be a secretary and you'll have a different list just as long of pet peeves, etc... Apr 23 12 04:54 pm Link Scarlett Renee wrote: Maybe they don't show you pictures because they're afraid they might accidentally bump you and get attacked. I always ask before touching, but I like a relaxed, friendly shooting process, not one with threats and fear. Apr 23 12 07:27 pm Link David Kilper wrote: I get frustrated with "professional photographers" who act like the worst problem aren't "real industry photographers" who take advantage of 15 year old girls by holding the idea of a Vogue cover in front of them, rather than amateurs who might pay someone to pose for bad glamour shots. Apr 23 12 07:55 pm Link Laura A Shodire wrote: Lmao BUTT TACO? I have never heard that before haha Apr 23 12 08:12 pm Link Photographers who constantly whinge about new models but then refuse to pay for professional and experienced ones. And fauxtographers who charge next to nothing for a full blown photo shoot and undercut all the excellent professional photographers. In both cases, you get what you pay (or don't pay) for. There, I bet you all hate me now  Apr 23 12 08:21 pm Link I think someone should start a "annoying things MUA do" thread... Yes I agree , I think that photographers should send out all images to the creatives and talents involved before posting it up on social networking sites ...Makes you feel abit un valued. Apr 24 12 05:10 am Link |
