The Grace Gabbana wrote:
Okay, here goes:

8. When a fauxtographer places a watermark on the finished images.

imcFOTO wrote:
I think I am with you 100% - those would all be things I would certainly not want to be guilty of - unprofessional to be sure.

Rrriiggghhhttt! 

Many photo and news agencies and some pretty well established photographers marking their photos for web display...







Getty started to include the photographer's name on some photos as well... hardly shot by amateurs of fauxtographers...

udor wrote:

The Grace Gabbana wrote:
Okay, here goes:

8. When a fauxtographer places a watermark on the finished images.

Rrriiggghhhttt! 

Many photo and news agencies and some pretty well established photographers marking their photos for web display...

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Getty started to include the photographer's name on some photos as well... hardly shot by amateurs of fauxtographers...

Deep Purple!
I've never seen this one.
I used to know Ritchie Blackmore personally in the late 80's.
We used to play soccer and then hang at his home.
I kinda miss those days.

Amadea T wrote:
It is a pet peeve of mine, when the photographer keeps wanting to feed me, (upon a wrapped set, before I get ready to leave), although I repeatedly said "No, thank you."  "I am ocd about my diet." " I appreciate the effort, but I am good." "I don't eat this or that, but thank you." "I am really not hungry."

I always feed everyone.  Usually there are at least a few people on a set and, coming from film, I'm used to some kind of "craft services".  Now, I can't always afford to have a full catered affair, but I make sure there is something to eat or snack on during the shoot as well as water and soft drinks.  After we wrap, and while cleaning everything up, I usually have a bottle of champagne to share among everyone there.

My avatar shot, for example, only took 20 minutes to shoot (I shot 13 frames) but it took about five hours to get everything ready with four people on set besides myself.  The makeup alone took four hours:



After everything's packed up, the model has changed back to their street attire and the bubbly has been sipped, it is not unusual for cast and crew to go get a bit to eat.  If shooting on location, especially when you don't/can't have food/drink on set, I always take whomever I'm working with out for something to eat.

You don't have to go, but it is nice when the whole team does.  I don't think I've ever had a model say no.  Most tell me how much they appreciate it.

udor wrote:

The Grace Gabbana wrote:
Okay, here goes:

8. When a fauxtographer places a watermark on the finished images.

Rrriiggghhhttt! 

Many photo and news agencies and some pretty well established photographers marking their photos for web display...







Getty started to include the photographer's name on some photos as well... hardly shot by amateurs of fauxtographers...

Those aren't the final images that the client gets when the license them.

Mikey McMichaels wrote:

Those aren't the final images that the client gets when the license them.

Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Those aren't the final images that the client gets when the license them.

Absolutely correct.

I see those images credited usually small in the corner, such as in the case below.

Craig was off-center below me to my right when he shot this image last week:

Tristin Huntamer wrote:
Talking about their camera and lights like it equals magic. I've seen amazing images with $10 cameras and natural lighting. Expensive gear doesn't make a great image: skill and a good idea does.

Photographers should really get this.

Miss AY wrote:
Sets my teeth on edge to have to listen to rants about other models re: flaking, nudity, no nudity, "porn", escorts, punctuality, tattoos, breast implants, hair color, etc etc...
especially when they end up trash talking girls I'm friends with. That's a one-way ticket to my "never work with again" list.

This.

Plus rubbishing girls who do promo and fit and showroom and life modelling. Even though they are better paid more regular and even agency models do them.

In real life I have only had one perv photographer.

Other than that, the only annoying incident has been repeatedly asked to strike a pose I knew wouldn't work. I did it but no good images resulted.

Other than that, photographers who want to phone constantly and chat when emails can have photography links location details etc and can be read at convenient time.


So other than that its just a minority of the forum photographers whining about us and slagging us off  causes me most annoyance.

In real life when I hear a photographer moan about flakes I tend to say it's your own fault for taking risks on models with selfie ports and they acknowledge and  shut up.

Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
When they don't give me food!   Or candy!   

I'll give you all that you want!   

Carle Photography wrote:

In some cases it is a crossover of the film industry, where craft services are available.

For larger projects/longer days you can be working 10+ hour days, and people are expected to be on set. So food is catered.

Also in fine art, classes/groups/events food is many times available as well.

For a short shoot under 4 hours, ya food is not a big deal but if you are expected to be in a studio for longer food is a good idea.

I did not mind feeding you. 

MelissaAnn  wrote:
Oh, two more.  When a photographer stalks my portfolio and leaves picture comments like "I would love to work with you", lists like "models I want to work with", and tags on a weekly basis but never sends me a pm.  Finally I send a message to them and then never hear back.....but they keep stalking my portfolio with the comments/lists/tags.  So weird.

When they tell me to bring a bunch of specific wardrobe items to a shoot that I have to pack, unpack, steam, etc, and then they decide they just want to shoot nudes.  I swear I'm not going to bother bringing clothes anymore, they rarely ever get used.

Ever seen a woman's pinterest page... "My style"   How many of those clothes do they buy? 

How many models ever actually do a shot  like the ones in their "shots I love" etc lists?0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%?      MM is not pinterest, but it's also not Ford, Storm, Elite, ONE et al

DwLPhoto wrote:
Ever seen a woman's pinterest page... "My style"   How many of those clothes do they buy? 

How many models ever actually do a shot  like the ones in their "shots I love" etc lists?0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%?      MM is not pinterest, but it's also not Ford, Storm, Elite, ONE et al

I'm sorry - what part of this comment is about things that photographers do that annoy you?

THIS is one if the things that annoys me.
We can't even have a conversation with each other humorously as a parody of photographers threads about us, without stereotypical comments (maybe we should be grateful it's not too misogynistic at least) about women and how we are not Elite models etc.

Well actually there ARE Elite models here. If in doubt ask Stefano as I have shown him. I have done runway with Premier models on massive money to boot. We agent all aspiring to that anyway as if the vast majority of photographers will ever get to work with such.

Now lets put your Pinterest interest theory to the test.

Heres mine:

http://www.pinterest.com/elizacmodel/

Now if you go to the fashion inspiration you will see
Thierry Mugler I have 7 pieces
Agent Provocateur I have 137 pieces
Christian Dior I have 6 pieces
Philip Treacy I have 1 piece
Keith Scarlett boots no pieces but we shot them for a mag the month after they were in Vogue
New look fifties dresses 2 original pieces
Couture vintage furs I have four pieces
Henry Hunt I have 3 pieces
Nicole Fahri I have five pieces
Escada (Ley) I have three pieces

Want me to go on? I could.

Now lets see here was my inspiration board. The stylists and myself went about getting the ingredients and the editorial was published.
This was our mood and research board
http://www.pinterest.com/elizacmodel/fa … spiration/
And this made up the first part of this editorial:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=914837

Then this a collaboration with a couture bridal designer my board:
http://www.pinterest.com/elizacmodel/fl … spiration/
Pinterest.com/elizacmodel/floral-inspiration/
And hers:
http://www.pinterest.com/Alissiacouture … ess-board/

These the resulting published images :

http://www.alissiacouture.com/diy-tutor … led-shoot/







Now you see I see photographers interest ports too and what is often apparent is they know squat about fashion, and for the most part will never achieve 0.00000000000001% of the quality of some of the images they aspire to; have not a cat in hells chance of shooting such clothes (as if they are actually interested) , their only chance would be getting it via models who have amassed wardrobe on the cheap because they have been doing those interest boards etc or are savvy with fashion press offices designers and boutiques;   or work with any of the models of such calibre. So that just leaves us. And we are getting a bit miffed about being told we are crap as though most of you guys are Miesel and Newton or will ever be published in Vogue.

Just to remind you: this is OUR rant thread. You should read in detail by looking at the links so you never make the mistake that interest fashion inspiration boards are some kind of fantasy. If you are very lucky most of you will get the chance to work with models and stylists that use it so all you have to do is show up and shoot after giving us a loose brief then get published. So think in future before lashing out at something you know little about the moutivation for.

Now I know deep down you will respect this as you are a bloody good photographer but didn't do this without stylists input and they and models use pinterest or mood boards etc to help make these kinds of amazing shots,what they are:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/32938045

Eliza C  new portfolio wrote:

THIS is one if the things that annoys me.
We can't even have a conversation with each other humorously as a parody of photographers threads about us, without stereotypical comments (maybe we should be grateful it's not too misogynistic at least) about women and how we are not Elite models etc.
...

Just to remind you: this is OUR rant thread. You should read in detail by looking at the links so you never make the mistake that interest fashion inspiration boards are some kind of fantasy. If you are very lucky most of you will get the chance to work with models and stylists that use it so all you have to do is show up and shoot after giving us a loose brief then get published. So think in future before lashing out at something you know little about the moutivation for.

+849381904839018493

Amadea T wrote:

There. Just this once, and for all to see:

Meat and meat products
Most 'snack foods', such as chips, etc.
Anything with artificial flavors, colors, hormones, antibiotics (animals), etc.
I don't eat most cheeses (import only, because I don't want anything to do with the dairy industry in the US -hormones again)
Eggs. Unless 100% fee range.

See how it's getting complicated already?

I am iffy on fruit (I have something called 'geographical tongue', my tongue was grown to the roof of my mouth at birth, they had to cut it down right quick, and it left a miniature grand canyon on my tongue, that, when enough of the right substance is added, swells up, gives me little blisters around the edge of my tongue, and that gets painful). Too much acidity will set that off. Certain nuts will set it off. Certain enzymes in certain foods. Too much salt/vinegar/citric acid (yes, that means sour strawberries too!)/too much garlic (although IMHO there's no such thing as too much garlic).

I don't drink sodas or fruit juices (unless the water tastes like ass, which it mostly does here- I am a snob, because in Austria the water is so good).

No need to bother anyone with my restricitons.

You can feed me sushi. Won't ever turn that down. If it's good.

Oh really? I knew a guy that also had that.
+100 on the Sushi!

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
Because of my own problem of being humble to a fault, I just can't take when people seem to be bragging. I figure ports speak for themselves I guess. But even worse than that is trashing other local artists. It's kind of like in highschool, I wonder what they'll say to the next person about me. Makes me nervous.

+1

Eliza C  new portfolio wrote:
Just to remind you: this is OUR rant thread. You should read in detail by looking at the links so you never make the mistake that interest fashion inspiration boards are some kind of fantasy. If you are very lucky most of you will get the chance to work with models and stylists that use it so all you have to do is show up and shoot after giving us a loose brief then get published. So think in future before lashing out at something you know little about the moutivation for.

Hey, woah, woah, woah!  Some of us photographers have rants about other photographers too! 

Photographe wrote:
What annoys me about some photographers is the language they use...

Shot a model. Shoot a model.

Capture.

Commenting on swimwear/glamour with monosyllabic comments like "Wow Sexy".

"Do you have a boyfriend?"

Talking about equipment like it's going to solve their issues.

What annoys me the most is when someone advocates a working practice that clearly is not industry-standard, to the point where they will the person correctly stating the law or the working practice and once proven incorrect, simply are rude.

I always use the term shoot with a model.  I'm retired and the term work really annoys me.

v marie wrote:
When photographers say "if you are ever out in my area I would love to shoot you!"
I'm sorry but I don't just find myself wondering the streets of Maryland, New York or wherever you are. If you really want to shoot me, hire me and I will fly out to your area to shoot with you.

Also this. I appreciate people seeking me out, but really, I'm poor. I don't even travel for pleasure, let alone TF work 800km away.

toribach wrote:

Also this. I appreciate people seeking me out, but really, I'm poor. I don't even travel for pleasure, let alone TF work 800km away.

I like your look.   

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

I like your look.   

Thank you

v marie wrote:
When photographers say "if you are ever out in my area I would love to shoot you!"
I'm sorry but I don't just find myself wondering the streets of Maryland, New York or wherever you are. If you really want to shoot me, hire me and I will fly out to your area to shoot with you.

toribach wrote:
Also this. I appreciate people seeking me out, but really, I'm poor. I don't even travel for pleasure, let alone TF work 800km away.

Well... maybe the photographer doesn't have the resources to fly you in for a personal project shoot...

You still could come to that area, by chance, maybe because you are visiting friends or family etc., and in such a case... you can organize several photoshoots.

Don't really see an issue with this kind of offer.

I offered models from overseas to shoot when they come to my town..., which some do...

One model tho... living in London, UK, with Elite Asia, she actually flew to NYC just to shoot with me... she paid for the flight, stayed with a model friend and I shot her for free. She arrived Friday, we shot Saturday and Sunday she flew back to London.

All what I am trying to say... don't dismiss an offer of another artist, just because he/she is not rich enough to fly you in for a shoot. 

Two Pears Studio wrote:
Phew!!! Realizes that I'm super safe...

I offer water and to turn up the heat in the studio... that's it

A model that I photographed in November turned the heat up to 87 degrees in my hotel room.  I had to turn it down when I returned to the room.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

A model that I photographed in November turned the heat up to 87 degrees in my hotel room.  I had to turn it down when I returned to the room.

I keep it at a toasty 59F ... so heat is a must if I want them to get nude and stay.

Two Pears Studio wrote:

I keep it at a toasty 59F ... so heat is a must if I want them to get nude and stay.

The temperature was in the 50s and it was windy.  I knew that she was cold.
She posed nude.  We were going to shoot outside in the desert.  She was happy to shoot in my hotel room.   

Amadea T wrote:
This is a thread derived from the 'annoying things models do' bit in the 'other' forum.

This is about model's pet peeves, not horror storries about rape and molestation.

I go first:

It is a pet peeve of mine, when the photographer keeps wanting to feed me, (upon a wrapped set, before I get ready to leave), although I repeatedly said "No, thank you."  "I am ocd about my diet." " I appreciate the effort, but I am good." "I don't eat this or that, but thank you." "I am really not hungry."

I understand that in most it's not just about the hospitality thing, and good manners, but a little father complex. "Must feed starving child."

Really, you are sweet, but please don't make me explain my whole issue about why I don't eat certain things, we'll be there for another hour.


Edit: I'd love a glass of water, all the time, every time. Please and thank you.

And I repeat Cookiemonster.........
'no cookies,not now not ever,not never........

udor wrote:

v marie wrote:
When photographers say "if you are ever out in my area I would love to shoot you!"
I'm sorry but I don't just find myself wondering the streets of Maryland, New York or wherever you are. If you really want to shoot me, hire me and I will fly out to your area to shoot with you.

Well... maybe the photographer doesn't have the resources to fly you in for a personal project shoot...

You still could come to that area, by chance, maybe because you are visiting friends or family etc., and in such a case... you can organize several photoshoots.

Don't really see an issue with this kind of offer.

I offered models from overseas to shoot when they come to my town..., which some do...

One model tho... living in London, UK, with Elite Asia, she actually flew to NYC just to shoot with me... she paid for the flight, stayed with a model friend and I shot her for free. She arrived Friday, we shot Saturday and Sunday she flew back to London.

All what I am trying to say... don't dismiss an offer of another artist, just because he/she is not rich enough to fly you in for a shoot. 

Never a dismissal, I would just rather work with them than talk about it. In the event that I end up traveling though it's nice to keep in touch, which I try to do with the people I'm interested in working with. Just because it makes me a little crazy sometimes doesn't mean I shut people down

V Laroche wrote:
Man, I just hate chimping. That's all.

I think that this is a stupid expression, and when I shoot then I don't care what the model thinks... I am in for the results.

I shoot manual... adjust the light manual every shot might have a different lighting.

The result, for example, is that I have shot last year an editorial with two models, 6 looks, four locations and shot a total of 80 photos, from which 27 were selected by the editor. My ratio is usually 1/3 of my shots being selected for print and I check the result aka "chimping"... Another example is last months, I shot the lookbook for a designer, plus some editorials,13 hours, 9 models total on set, 420 frames, 150 selects...

There are photographers who use automatic settings, who spray and pray, getting for the same as in my example above 1800 frames or more, and are glad to get "five great ones"... who don't check their results...