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Other than for beginners and social purpose, groups shoots are useless and a total waste. Apr 10 14 09:27 am Link Dave McDermott wrote: Definitely! Apr 10 14 09:56 am Link Much better if you just have a beer and let others shoot Apr 10 14 10:01 am Link I remember a bunch of guys on the floor trying to get the shot of the girl with lingerie on the bed. No room for me, so I got a chair and shot from above. Teehee. Apr 10 14 10:14 am Link Another Italian Guy wrote: Yes and it often shows in their behavior, I don't think you can determine that by an image, bad or good. Apr 10 14 10:14 am Link As to the problem of trying to get the model's attentioin at a group shoot, it can be frustrating. When I was doing shoots, I used a ratio of 4 photographers for 1 model. The photographers were rotated every 30 minutes so they got to shoot all models and all backgrounds. Each photographer would be given a chance to set a pose, take 5-6 versions of that pose and pass to the next photographer. You'd be supprized how many rotations you can get in 30 minutes. Each group of 4 would have a moderator who kept take of the shots and rotations, but also shot in his turn. Apr 10 14 10:19 am Link Complete waste of creativity. There are a handful, I'm being polite with that, of workshops and group shoots in the entire nation that aren't completely useless. I've even known of famous photographers who host some of these and they are giant pieces of crap. I've never known any photographer in the history of ever to get a decent shot from one of these things. Not even once. If you're into fighting for a shot, letting someone else light the model, and 'working' with 'models' who don't know what they're doing then that's the thing for you. You're going to be more creative, get more experience, more useable shots and learn something by hiring a professional model and setting up a space to shoot. Apr 10 14 10:20 am Link Shot By Adam wrote:
Apr 10 14 10:24 am Link Shot By Adam wrote: LOL Apr 10 14 10:59 am Link Call Me Caitlin wrote: As a photographer early on, I attended a total of one. It was organized ok and not horrible, but it wasn't easy to find a spot to shoot from because of all the photographers. And they all kept saying "eyes over here" fighting for the attention of the models. Apr 10 14 11:36 am Link Model Sarah wrote: lol Apr 10 14 11:41 am Link BlueMoonPics wrote: Yes, it can be a great way to shoot with experienced models for a modest rate during the 1:1's. Basically building a starter portfolio in one or two group shoots. Apr 10 14 11:42 am Link Dave McDermott wrote: Another Italian Guy wrote: As the token MM GWC, thank you. Apr 10 14 11:44 am Link best kind of group shoot is among friends. everyone is require to bring a model or two. few year ago we did one. 4 photographers 8 nude models on a camping trip. https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/35269576 18+ Apr 10 14 11:50 am Link I brought this model back to my hotel room to shoot because it was getting windy and chilly outside at the shoot location.   Here is another model from the same groupshoot. I also was the only one photographing her at this time. 18+ https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 9d720b.jpg Here is another. 18+ https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 783164.jpg Another 18+ https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … ee2c70.jpg All of these models are MM models. Apr 10 14 11:54 am Link For those who say you can never get a decent image at a group shoot, I have so say that I have achieved a few wonderful photos. This photo: https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/29722799 18+ was taken at a group shoot, that featured, besides Mosh, Kayla Jane Danger, Jeska Vardinski, Scar and others. I got to shoot a model that normally charges $300/hr and created this image. I rarely attend group shoots now days, but it's a great way to 'test' models and network with models to set up 1-1 shoots. Group shoots also often have 30 minutes 1-1 sessions which is a good way to see if you and a model are on the same page. Apr 10 14 11:57 am Link I've attended a couple, but I doubt I'll ever do one again. I've found that most photographers who attend those group shoots can't share. More than once it's happened where the organizer told the photographers to take 5 minute turns with a model, so I did that, only to have the rest taking much longer turns so my turn didn't come back up again like it was supposed to. It's much easier for me to set things up on a one-on-one basis. Apr 10 14 12:00 pm Link Some are good, some suck but to a a large extent they are what you make them. I ran then for many years and most of the photographers came back several times a year for many years so I guess they thought they were worthwhile. Now I go to some local ones and they are very social and as good as the people running them. Sometimes they lack direction, sometimes they are too directed. There are a couple that I am looking forward to over the next two years mainly for the models they get and the locations. Apr 10 14 12:05 pm Link PLEASE don't start posting photos to prove how awesome group shoots can be. 1. There's ALWAYS an exception to the rule. 2. It's not the critique section so no one can tell you if you're picture doesn't hold up your claim. Apr 10 14 12:06 pm Link Model Sarah wrote: I don't know but I like these pictures that I took at Pasha's group shoot... Keith Allen Phillips wrote: Oh, fuk, Too late. Apr 10 14 12:06 pm Link I got my MM start at a group shoot. The director turned me on to MM and the model I was asked to give a ride to the shoot turned out to be my first one on one shoot. She was one of the best of MM models I have worked with. However I will not do anymore I work TF now. Some shoots were better than others some overcrowded with some pushy photographers hogging the best models. Apr 10 14 12:07 pm Link BlueMoonPics wrote: Ha! I'd say those fall under #1 Apr 10 14 12:10 pm Link Personality Imaging wrote: +1000 Apr 10 14 12:12 pm Link I enjoy them for what they are. A chance to network, screen talent, and take shots of opportunity. I host the annual Spring Fever event in Fresno, CA. The next one happens to be April 12. There are details on my profile for those that are curious. I always get great shots at group events. Apr 10 14 12:25 pm Link Chuckarelei wrote: +1 Apr 10 14 12:36 pm Link Chuckarelei wrote: Not for me! Apr 10 14 12:46 pm Link Model Sarah wrote: Bwahahahahahahaha Apr 10 14 12:55 pm Link Model Sarah wrote: These are from group shoots: Apr 10 14 12:56 pm Link Model Sarah wrote: My avatar was taken at a group shoot workshop. Apr 10 14 12:58 pm Link Some group shoots might be ok, but I suspect most are like this:  Apr 10 14 01:03 pm Link Keith Allen Phillips wrote:
Apr 10 14 01:06 pm Link Keith Allen Phillips wrote: I'm actually gonna do one better... 100% of the images displayed in this folder (dozens) were captured at SM 'Cruiseboat Photoshoot' events hosted by yours truly. That's 6 cruiseshoots in the last 7 years... ALL of them were groupshoots. Apr 10 14 01:07 pm Link Keith Allen Phillips wrote: Select Models wrote: Why is that "better?" Whether or not the photos in the folder you linked are "good" is very subjective. Apr 10 14 01:10 pm Link MelissaAnn wrote: Keith Allen Phillips wrote: Why is that "better?" Whether or not the photos in the folder you linked are "good" is very subjective. It's "one better" meaning instead of posting in the thread, SM is linking entire folders Apr 10 14 01:12 pm Link Keith Allen Phillips wrote: It looks like there are exceptions but you don't want to see them! You want to perpetuate the myth that all group shoots are bad! The fact is some people don't research and select good group shoots. Apr 10 14 01:13 pm Link MelissaAnn wrote: Keith Allen Phillips wrote: Why is that "better?" Whether or not the photos in the folder you linked are "good" is very subjective. What I meant was I was going to do one better than just posting one photo... as I posted a link to an entire folder full of groupshoot images. Critiques aren't allowed in this forum anyway... so your subjective comment is a moot point... Apr 10 14 01:14 pm Link Select Models wrote: That's what I said above Apr 10 14 01:15 pm Link CHAD ALAN wrote: Thankyouverymuch... Apr 10 14 01:16 pm Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: His point is that some people posting images here may not be seen as "exceptions to the rule," they may actually be proving Keith's point. Nobody can say though, because we're not allowed to critique images here, which makes posting them to prove a "point" pretty worthless. Apr 10 14 01:16 pm Link Keith Allen Phillips wrote: I think he's been told not to.....thankfully. Apr 10 14 01:17 pm Link |
