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K E S L E R
Posts: 11574
Los Angeles, California, US
Sounds to me like... ![https://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Brittany1lee/trap.jpg]()
Photographer
J Bennett Photography
Posts: 1270
Paramus, New Jersey, US
Its defiantly a Trap.
reply with ....I dunno, what if the photographer is also 17? and naked taking the pictures?
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J Bennett Photography
Posts: 1270
Paramus, New Jersey, US
K E S L E R wrote:
Sounds to me like...
![https://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Brittany1lee/trap.jpg]() What the Hell does this Mean?????
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Chris N
Posts: 1401
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Tell her what's right. That is is in fact illegal and all that junk. Then blow her off.
Otherwise, get ready to take a seat, haha.
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Sierra Sunshine
Posts: 11876
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
John Jebbia wrote:
My opinion: No, you're not being set up. The cops generally use "someone" under 15. Much better conviction that way and easier to convince a jury. That said, if you continue the conversation you may be asking for trouble.
Edit: Could be being set up by a local competitor. Dirt collectors. Oh THAT kind of set up.
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The Main Man
Posts: 4135
Sacramento, California, US
K E S L E R wrote:
Sounds to me like...
![https://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Brittany1lee/trap.jpg]() Wrong....Just wrong on so many levels. But dam near fell off my chair laughin!!!
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Johnny Holliday
Posts: 6
Charlotte, North Carolina, US
18 and older please!!!!! They start them youg at those wonderful Model School's lol,and you have to remember about 80% of model's[ either sex ],are Zoolanders
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tenrocK photo
Posts: 5486
New York, New York, US
Chris Macan wrote:
Just reply that it's not illegal but that it is not something you are interested in shooting.
There.... problem solved..... Why did it take a whole page to find this answer? I went back to read the OP again thinking I was missing something.
It is NOT illegal to shoot minors in the nude in the USA. Period. It IS illegal to shoot PORN with minors in the USA. How hard is that to get?
Is it wise to expose your business to people who do not know/agree with the law and get sued over this? Probably not.
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CGI Images
Posts: 4989
Wichita, Kansas, US
John Rayner wrote:
Sounds like someone is phishing for perverts. Run, don't walk to the nearest exit. I agree the circumstances and conversation seem fishy. I'd be cautious but I woudlnt lie to her. Just say not interested if your not, if you are tell her you'd like a sit down with her and her parents about exactly what kind of shoot she's wanting.
The reason I say have her parent(s) there isnt for some legal issue, but to see if she's sincere and a real person.
Photographer
Dylan A
Posts: 88
Phoenix, Arizona, US
tenrocK photo wrote:
Why did it take a whole page to find this answer? I went back to read the OP again thinking I was missing something.
It is NOT illegal to shoot minors in the nude in the USA. Period. It IS illegal to shoot PORN with minors in the USA. How hard is that to get?
Is it wise to expose your business to people who do not know/agree with the law and get sued over this? Probably not. I agree, how can so many posts be so wrong? I know, internet...
This is ironic because I had something similar very recently, though I know it was not a setup. An under age young woman is interested in shooting with me and I said a project I am working on probably would not be good since it is likely to involve nudity. She said "I am fine with nudity if it isn't too explicit or gross." I replied, "while I know what I want to do wouldn't be illegal technically, I do not like the idea that just about anyone else out there could make their own judgment call and cause me trouble. We can shoot nudes in a year, but in the mean time I will keep you in mind if I have anything I will feel will be appropriate." She understood, everyone is happy, how complicated should this be?
-Dylan
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Jake Garn
Posts: 3958
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
PYPI FASHION wrote:
Next question.
![https://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff269/TheCourtness/ChrisHanson.jpg]() LMFAO !!!
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BRISBANEbikini
Posts: 341
politely backaway from the law enforcement officer,block and runaway.
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Lee Saxon
Posts: 451
Gadsden, Alabama, US
Considering the terrible fake "tween/internet lingo" I'm guessing cop/Dateline, but if it's not that it's an 11 year old. It is just not possible for someone that dumb to make it to 17. There are just too many opportunities where one's survival depends upon understanding to look both ways before crossing the street...
Model
Sierra Sunshine
Posts: 11876
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
leesaxon com wrote:
Considering the terrible fake "tween/internet lingo" I'm guessing cop/Dateline, but if it's not that it's an 11 year old. It is just not possible for someone that dumb to make it to 17. There are just too many opportunities where one's survival depends upon understanding to look both ways before crossing the street... Lmfao.
Alice
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Michelle Genevieve
Posts: 1140
Gaithersburg, Maryland, US
Joe Branske wrote:
... what could possibly go wrong? Don't most disasters start with those 5 words?
Artist/Painter
aquarelle
Posts: 2056
Chicago, Illinois, US
Reminds me of that great old Steve Lawrence song......
"Go Away Little Girl......."
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o k u t a k e
Posts: 4660
New York, New York, US
leesaxon com wrote:
Considering the terrible fake "tween/internet lingo" I'm guessing cop/Dateline, but if it's not that it's an 11 year old. It is just not possible for someone that dumb to make it to 17. There are just too many opportunities where one's survival depends upon understanding to look both ways before crossing the street... You're dead wrong here. I've seen and met quite a few that have made it into full on adult hood. So much for Darwin.
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lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
 Moderator Warning! BlackDiamond Photo wrote:
Do any of you classically trained photographers care to share with us what day of class you were covered on underaged nudity shooting legalities? Please report it to CAM, we can track to see if it is a fake profile.
Thanks.
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Sophistocles
Posts: 21320
Seattle, Washington, US
Dear Underaged Model,
No, it's not illegal as such. Yes, there are things that would make it illegal, but simple nudity is often not one of those things. That said, I only shoot models over 18 if, for no other reason, they can irrevocably contract in their own name. That is, being over 18, they can sign the model release and I don't have to worry about the legal pitfalls of contracting with a minor.
I'm sure you understand. Give me a call on your 18th birthday, I'll give you a free nude shoot as a present. Until then, best of luck.
Love and Kisses,
Herr Photographerdude
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Kevin Connery
Posts: 17824
El Segundo, California, US
BlackDiamond Photo wrote:
Maybe I am paranoid but to ask a photographer a question about that topic is awful strange. Don't you think? Odd, but not "awful strange." Just answer her question if you know the answer, or tell her you don't know. Or tell her you're not interested no matter whether it is or isn't legal, or...
Asking a question is perfectly legitimate in most cases.
BlackDiamond Photo wrote:
Do any of you classically trained photographers care to share with us what day of class you were covered on underaged nudity shooting legalities? MM Threads on Photographing Minors in the Nude, Suggestive, Risque, Sexy, or similar situations
Photography Talk > Need advice for underage shoot (Miley Cyrus/Vanity Fair-style)
General Industry > Minors shooting lignerie? General Industry > Underage models. (âsexyâ photos requested by model)
General Industry > Suggested nudes (â¦of an underage model)
General Industry > Underage Model (Suicide girl-style, 5+ pages)
General Industry > Implied nude with minors? (5+ pages)
General Industry > Photographing Nude Minors...... (5+ pages)
General Industry > Under-age models & "implied"
General Industry > Dilema..!! (Art nudes w/16 y/o model in UK)
General Industry > What state in the US is underage... (â¦nude images acceptable?) (5+ pages)
General Industry > Shooting a 16 y/o nude, but covered sparsely? (6 pages, locked)
Model Matters > Underage models. How sexy is too sexy?
Model Matters > Underage model nudity? (3+ pages)
Model Matters > Underage models & glamour/pin-up/lingerie?
Model Matters > Minors working implide
Model Matters > Underage Lingerie Shooting
Model Matters > how young is to young?? (ââ¦sexy pics done hand brasâ¦â) (3+ pages)
Model Matters > Underage sister posing nude for pro photogs! (8+ pages)
Photography Talk > Underage lingerie modeling (3+ pages)
Photography Talk > Another Question about Minors!!! (Semi-nude)
Photography Talk > Legal age to shoot nudes (3+ pages)
Photography Talk > When I work with minors... (lingerie requested by parent)
Photography Talk > isn't teen glamour illegal? (Trueteenbabes.com) (4+ pages)
Photography Talk > Implied and underage model (7+ pages)
General Industry > Underage Fashion Models posing Nude for Euro Vogue (5+ pages)
Photography Talk > T Magazine & Paolo Roversi & Underage nudes
State Laws regarding Child Pornography or Nudity (They're not the same thing.)
State Child Pornography Statutes (PDF document)
Federal Laws regarding Child Pornography (Again, includes more than nudity)
All are part of Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 110 (Index)
Note that nudity is not automatically included, and that clothed images can be included.
2251. Sexual exploitation of children
§ 2252. Certain activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors
§ 2252A. Certain activities relating to material constituting or containing child pornography
§ 2256. Definitions for chapter
§ 2257. Record keeping requirements
Model
Alana Petrenko
Posts: 4
Woodland Hills, California, US
We, you are kind of asking the same type of a question that she is... :-(
What do you think? is an answer to both your and her questions!!!
Photographer
Benjamen McGuire
Posts: 3991
Portland, Oregon, US
OP.... Do you shoot nudes of 17 year olds?
If so, why are you concerned about this being a set-up? Is this the first time it occurred to you that it it may not be legal, or the first time you were afraid of being caught? Either way.... contact a good lawyer.
If not, tell her that you don't do it and to seek legal advice elsewhere.
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John Warner
Posts: 350
Santa Cruz, California, US
My 100% standard reply to anyone under 18yo is:
" Due to the nature of my work, I only work with models over 18yo. Contact me after you turn 18 and then we can discuss doing a shoot. "
on their 2nd and further replies, I write:
"As stated in my previous note:
Due to the nature of my work, I only work with models over 18yo. Contact me after you turn 18 and then we can discuss doing a shoot. I also check ID before the shoot"
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Russell Lewis
Posts: 4278
eKarl wrote:
Danger! Danger! Will Robinson.... ![https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd94/TheRustyHorse/Robbietherobot.jpg]()
It's times like these I love the internet! Thanks for this.
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WMcK
Posts: 5298
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
Just reply "Illegal or not, I don't do it. Goodbye."
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Aussiekylie
Posts: 743
Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Photographer
bpvalentine
Posts: 81
Tampa, Florida, US
Should probably should just not talk to anybody under 18 if you can help it, set up or no. She doesn't have to have evil plans for it to look bad to somebody and get you involved in trouble you don't deserve. Sure, maybe it would be a paying gig, but personally I don't think it's worth it dealing with a minor without a parent.
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