Photographer
Gene Cannon
Posts: 159
Wendell, North Carolina, US
If you wear sleeveless dresses or tops (especially with spaghetti straps) during a photo session, you may consider wearing a strapless bra (or no bra at all). Invariably, the bra straps slip out in view which I feel detracts from the image and the photographer does not notice and it is somewhat difficult to be Photoshopped out of the image ... just a suggestion!
Photographer
ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
Gene Cannon wrote: If you wear sleeveless dresses or tops (especially with spaghetti straps) during a photo session, you may consider wearing a strapless bra (or no bra at all). Invariably, the bra straps slip out in view which I feel detracts from the image and the photographer does not notice and it is somewhat difficult to be Photoshopped out of the image ... just a suggestion! Suggestion for photographers! Pay attention to details when you shoot. Just kidding! EDIT: ok I actually wasn't kidding. See reply below.
Model
Victoria Elle
Posts: 688
New York, New York, US
CHAD ALAN wrote: Suggestion for photographers! Pay attention to details when you shoot. Just kidding! No need to kid; this is an excellent suggestion. I cannot see myself when I am being shot. I can't see if my wardrobe has wrinkled, or twisted, or isn't falling right and needs to be clamped in the back to accommodate certain poses. I can't see if my hair has moved into an unflattering position, or if my make-up has smudged, or accessories have turned, or etc. when shooting 1:1 with a model, it's the photographer's job to keep an eye on these details, which really can ruin a photo. If the photographer does not want to worry about these things, they need to get an assistant or stylist or delegate to an MUA. A strapless bra is a must have in every model's wardrobe, but photographers also need to take responsibility for what's in front on their lense.
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
CHAD ALAN wrote: Suggestion for photographers! Pay attention to details when you shoot. Just kidding! You're kidding, but this is true. I can't go braless, my boobs won't act right. I can't wear a strapless bra because again, my boobs won't act right. So I wear a normal bra and hide the straps. Sometimes they pop back into view but a lot of photographers I've worked with caught it before snapping the photo (or after they snapped one and we do the pose over)
Photographer
ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
For certain types of shoots where there is no stylist on board, it's beneficial for the photographer to look over the wardrobe, make decisions and identify any potential faux pas that could occur. A wardrobe steamer will save many curse words in post. I steam all wardrobe with wrinkles, after wardrobe selection is made. Also, look for tags that may show through clothing as well as those that might stick out, loose threads, undone zippers, bra straps, lumpy bras, panty lines, eyelashes that come loose, visible wardrobe clips and clamps, hair ties, etc. A MUA and stylist on set should also keep an eye on what's in their realm, but I believe the photographer should be identifying these things as well, if at all possible. I guess my point is, don't leave it to someone else worry about and correct. I will say that it's great when you have multiple eyes on set though.
Photographer
ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
Victoria Elle wrote: No need to kid; this is an excellent suggestion. Danielle Reid wrote: You're kidding, but this is true. I added that part because my reply felt snarky But I came back to clarify above
Photographer
Top Gun Digital
Posts: 1528
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
CHAD ALAN wrote: Suggestion for photographers! Pay attention to details when you shoot. Just kidding! Realistically, as the photographer you do need to keep an eye on the details. Not just bra straps, but labels sticking out from lingerie, twisted up bikini strings, waistbands that have folded over, lipstick on teeth, etc. I had a model wear a great looking top, or at least I thought it was a great looking top until I looked at the images. Standing a few feet away I didn't notice it but the top had a lot of cat hair on it which ruined the images.
Photographer
ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
Top Gun Digital wrote: Realistically, as the photographer you do need to keep an eye on the details. Not just bra straps, but labels sticking out from lingerie, twisted up bikini strings, waistbands that have folded over, etc. I had a model wear a great looking top, or at least I thought it was a great looking top until I looked at the images. Standing a few feet away I didn't notice it but the top had a lot of cat hair on it which ruined the images. Eeek!
Model
Laura UnBound
Posts: 28745
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
CHAD ALAN wrote: For certain types of shoots where there is no stylist on board, it's beneficial for the photographer to look over the wardrobe, make decisions and identify any potential faux pas that could occur. A wardrobe steamer will save many curse words in post. I steam all wardrobe with wrinkles, after wardrobe selection is made. Also, look for tags that may show through clothing as well as those that might stick out, loose threads, undone zippers, bra straps, lumpy bras, panty lines, eyelashes that come loose, visible wardrobe clips and clamps, hair ties, etc. A MUA and stylist on set should also keep an eye on what's in their realm, but I believe the photographer should be identifying these things as well, if at all possible. I guess my point is, don't leave it to someone else worry about and correct. I will say that it's great when you have multiple eyes on set though. ^. Stop firing a thousand frames a second and look at what's in front of you, make sure everything is how you want it. We can't see everything (especially if you told us not to move) but you can.
Photographer
Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
Laura UnBound wrote: ^. Stop firing a thousand frames a second and look at what's in front of you, make sure everything is how you want it. We can't see everything (especially if you told us not to move) but you can. Exactly! Yes there may be stylist and art directors to keep an eye on these things but as photographers, it is our responsibility to double check these things as we see it from our shooting angles. Rapid firing will not remove a bra strap . It's a team effort but when there is no assistance we need to recognize on our own and "compose".
Model
Rockabella
Posts: 588
Bargara, Queensland, Australia
Sleeveless dresses and tops? A strapless bra would seem to be the best route, indeed. I've never had a problem with bra straps.. I normally do wear strapless so I don't have to think about it (I do need to invest in better ones because these make my breasts look tiny; big boobies and no lift is kinda terrible. ) Tucking straps might work with some outfits, too. While it's a great idea for models to have strapless with them at every shoot, it also never hurts for a photographer to let their model know something is amiss! Especially out in the forest or something where there aren't any bathrooms or big mirrors. That's why I love when a HMUA is on board, sometimes it is hard to manage everything (for models and photographers alike.)
Photographer
Steve Arebalo
Posts: 2280
Orange, California, US
CHAD ALAN wrote: Suggestion for photographers! Pay attention to details when you shoot. Just kidding! EDIT: ok I actually wasn't kidding. See reply below. No, you are not joking. I do not have the resources to pay a wardrobe assistant. It only took me two times, to Photoshop out the underlining bra to save pictures, to learn this lesson. I take the time now to make sure everything is where I want it to be in each image.
Photographer
Laubenheimer
Posts: 9317
New York, New York, US
Steve Arebalo wrote: No, you are not joking. I do not have the resources to pay a wardrobe assistant. It only took me two times, to Photoshop out the underlining bra to save pictures, to learn this lesson. I take the time now to make sure everything is where I want it to be in each image. QFT picasso never blamed anyone but himself for the art he created.
Photographer
Mark Reeder
Posts: 627
Huntsville, Ontario, Canada
L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: QFT picasso never blamed anyone but himself for the art he created. +1
Model
MelissaAnn
Posts: 3971
Seattle, Washington, US
Suggestions for Photographers: 1.) Fly me to exotic locations to shoot. 2.) Feed me amazing food. 3.) Have a puppy that I can pet between sets. 4.) Have a softbox the size of me, and use lighting that always makes me look perfect. Seriously though, the bra strap thing is annoying, but usually something that's easily noticed if you look. If a model is wearing a bra with straps with a spaghetti strap style top or dress, it's usually because they feel they *need* one (for shape or support). Trust the model, she probably knows her breasts better than you.
Photographer
Nick Kunn - ComPhoto
Posts: 79
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
I hate tags on anything, back of the neck, or bra, a panty or anywhere. I despise twisted bra straps, or clothing that looks thrown on.
Photographer
imcFOTO
Posts: 581
Bothell, Washington, US
Top Gun Digital wrote: Realistically, as the photographer you do need to keep an eye on the details. Not just bra straps, but labels sticking out from lingerie, twisted up bikini strings, waistbands that have folded over, lipstick on teeth, etc. I had a model wear a great looking top, or at least I thought it was a great looking top until I looked at the images. Standing a few feet away I didn't notice it but the top had a lot of cat hair on it which ruined the images. Agreed - it's up to the photographer to be vigilant for all these things - it's to their benefit often since it saves so much post-editing. However, sometimes standing 10 or 12 feet back, it's hard to spot every detail. I now make a point of having a mirror next to the shoot set and encourage models to do their own spot check (for makeup smudges etc.) before we start each set.
Model
wrongsideofthirty
Posts: 543
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Danielle Reid wrote: You're kidding, but this is true. I can't go braless, my boobs won't act right. I can't wear a strapless bra because again, my boobs won't act right. So I wear a normal bra and hide the straps. Sometimes they pop back into view but a lot of photographers I've worked with caught it before snapping the photo (or after they snapped one and we do the pose over) i think strapless bras are really made for small/petite little boobies ive never been able to wear one, or at least i can't wear one and be able to walk around and live a normal life my boobs barely "act right" in a regular bra
Model
Sabryna S
Posts: 311
Doylestown, Pennsylvania, US
I've learned this myself after seeing the results of a shoot. Same thing with a hair tie on the wrist (though I haven't done that since my very first shoot). It's kinda my own fault, but at the same time, I feel like the photographer should have said something to me. It's unlikely they liked the bra showing (especially if it's not a very pretty bra) or that the hair tie wasn't distracting. I have since bought a strapless bra, which isn't the best, but it's better than nothing...but sometimes nothing works better. Depends on the dress or top.
Model
K I C K H A M
Posts: 14689
Los Angeles, California, US
MelissaAnn wrote: Suggestions for Photographers: 1.) Fly me to exotic locations to shoot. 2.) Feed me amazing food. 3.) Have a puppy that I can pet between sets. 4.) Have a softbox the size of me, and use lighting that always makes me look perfect. Seriously though, the bra strap thing is annoying, but usually something that's easily noticed if you look. If a model is wearing a bra with straps with a spaghetti strap style top or dress, it's usually because they feel they *need* one (for shape or support). Trust the model, she probably knows her breasts better than you. Yep. I don't have this problem, but I am teeny tiny.
Model
Cervezax
Posts: 152
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Victoria Elle wrote: No need to kid; this is an excellent suggestion. I cannot see myself when I am being shot. I can't see if my wardrobe has wrinkled, or twisted, or isn't falling right and needs to be clamped in the back to accommodate certain poses. I can't see if my hair has moved into an unflattering position, or if my make-up has smudged, or accessories have turned, or etc. when shooting 1:1 with a model, it's the photographer's job to keep an eye on these details, which really can ruin a photo. If the photographer does not want to worry about these things, they need to get an assistant or stylist or delegate to an MUA. A strapless bra is a must have in every model's wardrobe, but photographers also need to take responsibility for what's in front on their lense. I agree!
Photographer
Revenge Photography
Posts: 1905
Horsham, Victoria, Australia
Sounds like a lot of mucking around to be honest. Just shoot nudes and then all you have to worry about is those damn hair ties on the wrist.
Photographer
Gene Cannon
Posts: 159
Wendell, North Carolina, US
I appreciate all the comments to my OP and I do agree that it is the ultimate responsibility of the photographer to make certain that all is ready to shoot (misplaced hair, wrinkled clothing, exposed bra straps, open eyes, lighting, composition, etc.). The majority of the time, I am aware of and do try to watch all these items and do catch most before I shoot; however, there are so many things to watch that I will miss such items sometimes. Wearing a strapless bra (or no bra) or a sleeved dress or top provides one less item with which the photographer has to deal. My OP was just a suggestion for models to help the photographer to get better shots that the model can use (I do lots of TF shots).
Photographer
Rob Photosby
Posts: 4810
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
The braless route is the best option. Second best option is a small tab of boob tape or similar between the bra strap and the dress to keep the two together.
Model
Torttunaattori
Posts: 320
Helsinki, Uusimaa, Finland
Danielle Reid wrote: You're kidding, but this is true. I can't go braless, my boobs won't act right. I can't wear a strapless bra because again, my boobs won't act right. So I wear a normal bra and hide the straps. Sometimes they pop back into view but a lot of photographers I've worked with caught it before snapping the photo (or after they snapped one and we do the pose over) I got the same issue! Can't go braless or put on a strapless bra, cos gravity will take over in a very awkward way...
Photographer
ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
Gene Cannon wrote: I appreciate all the comments to my OP and I do agree that it is the ultimate responsibility of the photographer to make certain that all is ready to shoot (misplaced hair, wrinkled clothing, exposed bra straps, open eyes, lighting, composition, etc.). The majority of the time, I am aware of and do try to watch all these items and do catch most before I shoot; however, there are so many things to watch that I will miss such items sometimes. Wearing a strapless bra (or no bra) or a sleeved dress or top provides one less item with which the photographer has to deal. My OP was just a suggestion for models to help the photographer to get better shots that the model can use (I do lots of TF shots). Hey Gene, sounds good. And a model that comes to a shoot prepared with whatever they may need (and even not need) is amazing.
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Victoria Elle wrote: No need to kid; this is an excellent suggestion. I cannot see myself when I am being shot. I can't see if my wardrobe has wrinkled, or twisted, or isn't falling right and needs to be clamped in the back to accommodate certain poses. I can't see if my hair has moved into an unflattering position, or if my make-up has smudged, or accessories have turned, or etc. when shooting 1:1 with a model, it's the photographer's job to keep an eye on these details, which really can ruin a photo. If the photographer does not want to worry about these things, they need to get an assistant or stylist or delegate to an MUA. A strapless bra is a must have in every model's wardrobe, but photographers also need to take responsibility for what's in front on their lense. Yes, attention to detail IS the photographers job.
Photographer
Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5214
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
Suggestion for photographers - take care of your own shit. YOU are looking at the model, not the model.
Model
Ida Saint-Luc
Posts: 449
San Francisco, California, US
Wow, I'm so pleased everyone took this stance. +1,000 to everyone
Photographer
Revenge Photography
Posts: 1905
Horsham, Victoria, Australia
Fen Lingling wrote: I got the same issue! Can't go braless or put on a strapless bra, cos gravity will take over in a very awkward way... Duct tape is good for that
Model
MartaBrixton
Posts: 1022
London, England, United Kingdom
Model
wrongsideofthirty
Posts: 543
Boston, Massachusetts, US
MartaBrixton wrote: Really? I think my breasts are slightly bigger than yours and I wear strapless bras all the time, it's not a problem at all and I don't see them acting not right. Maybe you are wearing wrong bras.
um idk you actually "appear" much bigger than I am but im glad you feel you get the support from them you need
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Nick Kunn - ComPhoto wrote: I hate tags on anything, back of the neck, or bra, a panty or anywhere. I despise twisted bra straps, or clothing that looks thrown on. Yea, me too. Here's the solution to your bra-strap and tag and wrinkle dilemma: Go nekkid. Unless, of course, the birthday suit is too wrinkled too...
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Amadea T wrote: Yea, me too. Here's the solution to your bra-strap and tag and wrinkle dilemma: Go nekkid. Unless, of course, the birthday suit is too wrinkled too... I don't like wrinkled birthday suits.
Photographer
Ash Photographic
Posts: 378
Cirencester, England, United Kingdom
Gene Cannon wrote: If you wear sleeveless dresses or tops (especially with spaghetti straps) during a photo session, you may consider wearing a strapless bra (or no bra at all). Invariably, the bra straps slip out in view which I feel detracts from the image and the photographer does not notice and it is somewhat difficult to be Photoshopped out of the image ... just a suggestion! Why do you feel the need to lecture models about this here? Just tell them at the shoot to lose the bra. Not hard. Ash.
Photographer
Ash Photographic
Posts: 378
Cirencester, England, United Kingdom
Amadea T wrote: Here's the solution to your bra-strap and tag and wrinkle dilemma: Go nekkid. My kind of gal!
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
MartaBrixton wrote: Really? I think my breasts are slightly bigger than yours and I wear strapless bras all the time, it's not a problem at all and I don't see them acting not right. Maybe you are wearing wrong bras. pic pic pic Your breast are fuller than mine, I wear a 34C but my tits are the like half filled water balloons on a hot summer's day. Not sexy unless I'm wearing a push-em-up-to-the-roof bra
Photographer
J Haggerty
Posts: 1315
Augusta, Georgia, US
Danielle Reid wrote: Your breast are fuller than mine, I wear a 34C but my tits are the like half filled water balloons on a hot summer's day. Not sexy unless I'm wearing a push-em-up-to-the-roof bra Exactly! Women's breasts are shaped differently even if they are the same size numerically. Strapless bras deflate my 34C, they're swimming in a full cover cup but they absolutely SING in a balcony bra with light padding. Bra straps are annoying, but you can use double sided tape and attach the bra strap to the shirt strap and clean up the edges in post without having to worry about shadows and wrinkles from two strap impressions.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Danielle Reid wrote: Your breast are fuller than mine, I wear a 34C but my tits are the like half filled water balloons on a hot summer's day. Not sexy unless I'm wearing a push-em-up-to-the-roof bra I thought that you were going to get them fixed.
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